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Can someone please explain to me why this post has gotten flagged? It is about science, or possibly the misrepresentation there of. Is this not appropriate for

Can someone please explain to me why this post has gotten flagged? It is about science, or possibly the misrepresentation there of. Is this not appropriate for nerdy discussion?

z7 4y ago
I made this submission and it seems ridiculous that a state press release gets censored. Obviously you can (and should) critique the statistical analysis or reject it altogether, but that the Florida Department of Health makes this announcement is in itself of obvious public interest and worthy of discussion.
- consumer451 4y ago
  Your submission and its flagging has been disturbing me for many hours now. The issue is that this is “political” and dang has written about this.[0] However, what are vaccines? They are biotechnology. Technology is what this site is about, correct? The problem is overlap. But everything has been, or is becoming politicized in the United States. This means that every day we will have less and less to discuss here on HN. The other issue is one of partisan bias. I now realize that I need to take a deep hard look at this. As should HN. I guess the solution, as I understand it, is that I begin to flag things that I see as political. Like say, any post about immigration. Section 230? Should we all flag that? Clearly that’s political. What’s next? This is not good. [0] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=political%20overlap%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...
  - z7 4y ago
    The process of flagging is just very opaque to me. I don't know why it was flagged. I don't know who flagged it. A moderator, a high karma poster, multiple people? I don't know if I could appeal it. Your question as to the reason remained unanswered. It's an anonymous process abstracted from transparent human engagement that is somewhat typical for technologized user enviroments.
    - raxxorraxor 4y ago
      I lost my old account and maybe you need karma, but the option to vouch for an article seems gone too. Wouldn't solve the issue, but I think it would be interesting to make transparent who did the flagging.
version_five 4y ago
Because it ends up just triggering ad-honimen attacks of discussions that quickly devolve into pointless nitpicking of "the science" instead or anything about the actual state policy. Put another way, readership isn't mature enough to have the nerdy part of the discussion
- consumer451 4y ago
  So this was a preemptive flagging? Because looking at the comments I was surprised at how relatively civil it was, considering this a matter of life and death. The “Florida man” type comment (or five) can easily be handled at the comment level.
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Ekaros 4y ago
Because this goes against the lies the fascist totalitarians have spend years now spreading. And they just can't accept they are wrong in this as they might be wrong with other things as well...
timbit42 4y ago
...because commenters without enough karma to downvote resort to flagging. Maybe HN requires too much karma to allow post downvoting.
- plorkyeran 4y ago
  Only comments can be downvoted, not submissions.
  - consumer451 4y ago
    Are we not allowed to vouch for submissions? Edit: oh, I see this, but there seem to be conflicting reports on vouching for flagged submissions. And a personal disclaimer, I don’t enjoy delving into this meta malarkey. However, for this post it seemed worthwhile.
stall84 4y ago
Is someone honestly afraid that a reader of news.g0dD@mn.ycombinator.com seriously going to harm themselves by reading a press release from a state health department ? What is happening to us .. y'all ?

Can someone please explain to me why this post has gotten flagged? It is about science, or possibly the misrepresentation there of. Is this not appropriate for nerdy discussion?

z7 4y ago

I made this submission and it seems ridiculous that a state press release gets censored. Obviously you can (and should) critique the statistical analysis or reject it altogether, but that the Florida Department of Health makes this announcement is in itself of obvious public interest and worthy of discussion.

consumer451 4y ago
Your submission and its flagging has been disturbing me for many hours now. The issue is that this is “political” and dang has written about this.[0] However, what are vaccines? They are biotechnology. Technology is what this site is about, correct? The problem is overlap. But everything has been, or is becoming politicized in the United States. This means that every day we will have less and less to discuss here on HN. The other issue is one of partisan bias. I now realize that I need to take a deep hard look at this. As should HN. I guess the solution, as I understand it, is that I begin to flag things that I see as political. Like say, any post about immigration. Section 230? Should we all flag that? Clearly that’s political. What’s next? This is not good. [0] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=political%20overlap%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...
- z7 4y ago
  The process of flagging is just very opaque to me. I don't know why it was flagged. I don't know who flagged it. A moderator, a high karma poster, multiple people? I don't know if I could appeal it. Your question as to the reason remained unanswered. It's an anonymous process abstracted from transparent human engagement that is somewhat typical for technologized user enviroments.
  - raxxorraxor 4y ago
    I lost my old account and maybe you need karma, but the option to vouch for an article seems gone too. Wouldn't solve the issue, but I think it would be interesting to make transparent who did the flagging.

version_five 4y ago

Because it ends up just triggering ad-honimen attacks of discussions that quickly devolve into pointless nitpicking of "the science" instead or anything about the actual state policy. Put another way, readership isn't mature enough to have the nerdy part of the discussion

consumer451 4y ago
So this was a preemptive flagging? Because looking at the comments I was surprised at how relatively civil it was, considering this a matter of life and death. The “Florida man” type comment (or five) can easily be handled at the comment level.
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Ekaros 4y ago

Because this goes against the lies the fascist totalitarians have spend years now spreading. And they just can't accept they are wrong in this as they might be wrong with other things as well...

timbit42 4y ago

...because commenters without enough karma to downvote resort to flagging. Maybe HN requires too much karma to allow post downvoting.

plorkyeran 4y ago
Only comments can be downvoted, not submissions.
- consumer451 4y ago
  Are we not allowed to vouch for submissions? Edit: oh, I see this, but there seem to be conflicting reports on vouching for flagged submissions. And a personal disclaimer, I don’t enjoy delving into this meta malarkey. However, for this post it seemed worthwhile.

stall84 4y ago

Is someone honestly afraid that a reader of news.g0dD@mn.ycombinator.com seriously going to harm themselves by reading a press release from a state health department ? What is happening to us .. y'all ?