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It's 2022, if you haven't realized by now that google is not your friend and based all your revenue on the company, what do you expect people to say?

Maxburn 4y ago
One of the best things of the past couple years; we have never had a clearer view of where everyone’s motives are. The real question; what are we doing now that we know these things?
- ThrowawayR2 4y ago
  Nothing. The old school "information wants to be free" nerds and the tech companies they founded have irreversibly conditioned the public not to pay for anything on the Internet so now everybody and everything dances to the tune of ad brokers/advertisers to make their living. Until a new revenue model comes along to replace ad dollars, nothing is going to change no matter how many people grumble abut it.
  - BiteCode_dev 4y ago
    And that's why netlix and itunes were never popular since you could download that all for free. Oh, wait.
    - ghaff 4y ago
      While I'm sure there's some overlap, the information wants to be free crowd isn't necessarily the same as the crowd that mostly cares about convenience. The other factor here is that selling creative content/getting people to pay to see you has pretty much always been a long odds crapshoot as far as earning a living wage is concerned and there have likewise pretty much always been random gatekeepers standing in your way for all sorts of arbitrary reasons.
    - ThrowawayR2 4y ago
      Rather ironic you should mention Netflix since they're just about to implement a new partially-ad supported tier to their plans.
Brian_K_White 4y ago
I consider it reasonable to say that something is wrong as long as it remains wrong. You might say it does no good to complain but I say it does no good to stop complaining.
- ouid 4y ago
  The more people complain about how bad it is to be a youtube creator, the more likely google will be to get in trouble when they hide those complaints from people searching for information about youtube monetization.
- BiteCode_dev 4y ago
  I think it's good to keep increasing awareness, but it must be followed by actions. Which it is not. People have been complaining gafams were abusive for a decade now, and kept giving them more power over them. You don't see much youtube publishing elsewhere to build an alternative, people keep sending all their data to facebook, few people migrate from gmail and firefox usage is not growing.

Maxburn 4y ago

One of the best things of the past couple years; we have never had a clearer view of where everyone’s motives are. The real question; what are we doing now that we know these things?

ThrowawayR2 4y ago
Nothing. The old school "information wants to be free" nerds and the tech companies they founded have irreversibly conditioned the public not to pay for anything on the Internet so now everybody and everything dances to the tune of ad brokers/advertisers to make their living. Until a new revenue model comes along to replace ad dollars, nothing is going to change no matter how many people grumble abut it.
- BiteCode_dev 4y ago
  And that's why netlix and itunes were never popular since you could download that all for free. Oh, wait.
  - ghaff 4y ago
    While I'm sure there's some overlap, the information wants to be free crowd isn't necessarily the same as the crowd that mostly cares about convenience. The other factor here is that selling creative content/getting people to pay to see you has pretty much always been a long odds crapshoot as far as earning a living wage is concerned and there have likewise pretty much always been random gatekeepers standing in your way for all sorts of arbitrary reasons.
  - ThrowawayR2 4y ago
    Rather ironic you should mention Netflix since they're just about to implement a new partially-ad supported tier to their plans.

Brian_K_White 4y ago

I consider it reasonable to say that something is wrong as long as it remains wrong. You might say it does no good to complain but I say it does no good to stop complaining.

ouid 4y ago
The more people complain about how bad it is to be a youtube creator, the more likely google will be to get in trouble when they hide those complaints from people searching for information about youtube monetization.
BiteCode_dev 4y ago
I think it's good to keep increasing awareness, but it must be followed by actions. Which it is not. People have been complaining gafams were abusive for a decade now, and kept giving them more power over them. You don't see much youtube publishing elsewhere to build an alternative, people keep sending all their data to facebook, few people migrate from gmail and firefox usage is not growing.