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As always, some people hate the graphical layout, but if you want to read the discussion on Twitter, I find that there is no method that compares with it. Here

As always, some people hate the graphical layout, but if you want to read the discussion on Twitter, I find that there is no method that compares with it. Here's the Twitter discussion: https://www.solipsys.co.uk/Chartter/1578145220369084416.svg https://www.solipsys.co.uk/Chartter/1578145220369084416.svg Zoom out and see the shape of the entire conversation, scroll around to see the individual comments, click on a box to go to the original tweet. The original submission here is to the discussion on Mastodon, though there have been no replies there yet.

musingsole 4y ago
That's awesome! I find it funny I've never thought to graph a Twitter conversation before...but I suppose that would require thinking about Twitter. Which I avoid.
- ColinWright 4y ago
  Simple discussions are easy to follow, but complex and extensive discussion are really, really hard to follow. Charting them like this is the only way I know where you can trace over discussions and make sure you catch everything. I get involved in a lot of large discussions, and extracting and distilling the knowledge is important to me, which I why I start with the chart, then have tools to navigate over it, cull the useless bits, and retain what's important. If you cultivate and curate your connections, Twitter can be a brilliant source, but the interface is atrocious.
867-5309 4y ago
this would be lovely as html
- ColinWright 4y ago
  I've asked many, many times to try to get people to help me learn enough to be able to do this in HTML. They've all expressed enthusiasm, then gradually faded away and been unable to do it. There are complexities that most people find sufficiently daunting that they decide it's too much trouble. "We do these things not because they are easy, but because we thought they would be easy". That's why I've settled (so far)on a clickable SVG. Pareto's Principle: 80% of the benefit from 20% of the work.
  - 867-5309 4y ago
    presumably something like python is being used to scrape tweets, then spitting out svg tags? shouldn't be much work to change those to html tags with a linked stylesheet or js library for diagrams. I see help offered elsewhere but count me as a +1, seems like a really useful tool
    - ColinWright 4y ago
      You don't have contact details in your profile, but I have in mine. Shoot me an email and I'll explain more about the challenges. If you can help I'd be really interested in talking with you.
      - 867-5309 4y ago
        email sent
  - db48x 4y ago
    There is a lot to be said for just running dot and living with the imperfections.
    - ColinWright 4y ago
      Which is exactly what I do.
  - jimhi 4y ago
    If you have the energy for one more go - I’ll help out with the HTML. I’ll try the email in your profile.
    - ColinWright 4y ago
      Sure ... my time is severely limited at the moment as an event I'm running is fast approaching, but I'd be happy to talk about the context and the problems, and see if we can do something. Edit: BTW ... plausibly the problem is working with me!

musingsole 4y ago

That's awesome! I find it funny I've never thought to graph a Twitter conversation before...but I suppose that would require thinking about Twitter. Which I avoid.

ColinWright 4y ago
Simple discussions are easy to follow, but complex and extensive discussion are really, really hard to follow. Charting them like this is the only way I know where you can trace over discussions and make sure you catch everything. I get involved in a lot of large discussions, and extracting and distilling the knowledge is important to me, which I why I start with the chart, then have tools to navigate over it, cull the useless bits, and retain what's important. If you cultivate and curate your connections, Twitter can be a brilliant source, but the interface is atrocious.

867-5309 4y ago

this would be lovely as html

ColinWright 4y ago
I've asked many, many times to try to get people to help me learn enough to be able to do this in HTML. They've all expressed enthusiasm, then gradually faded away and been unable to do it. There are complexities that most people find sufficiently daunting that they decide it's too much trouble. "We do these things not because they are easy, but because we thought they would be easy". That's why I've settled (so far)on a clickable SVG. Pareto's Principle: 80% of the benefit from 20% of the work.
- 867-5309 4y ago
  presumably something like python is being used to scrape tweets, then spitting out svg tags? shouldn't be much work to change those to html tags with a linked stylesheet or js library for diagrams. I see help offered elsewhere but count me as a +1, seems like a really useful tool
  - ColinWright 4y ago
    You don't have contact details in your profile, but I have in mine. Shoot me an email and I'll explain more about the challenges. If you can help I'd be really interested in talking with you.
    - 867-5309 4y ago
      email sent
- db48x 4y ago
  There is a lot to be said for just running dot and living with the imperfections.
  - ColinWright 4y ago
    Which is exactly what I do.
- jimhi 4y ago
  If you have the energy for one more go - I’ll help out with the HTML. I’ll try the email in your profile.
  - ColinWright 4y ago
    Sure ... my time is severely limited at the moment as an event I'm running is fast approaching, but I'd be happy to talk about the context and the problems, and see if we can do something. Edit: BTW ... plausibly the problem is working with me!