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I'm claiming the reverse - the human ones are the normal people who just want to use email without it berating them every time they log in. Then your grandpare
by lucasyvas 4y ago
I'm claiming the reverse - the human ones are the normal people who just want to use email without it berating them every time they log in.
Then your grandparents are technical users. Curiously, so are mine. Sorry to tell you that you're wrong though and you have not met the non-technical users.
I've had to try to help my aunt and uncle recover old Apple and Google accounts with complete failure because they've changed cell phone providers and didn't care that their phone numbers changed. At no point are they adequately warned this is the case, and recovery codes are a confusing additional layer that they don't understand.
So they basically lose everything and nobody is willing to help them. You are making a grand assumption about accessibility - not everyone has the capability to grok such a convoluted login process. The non-technical users often aren't morons - they are just differently abled. Maybe they are immigrants who didn't grow up with computers much because they were poor, or have a mental condition.
2FA fails spectacularly on accessibility.
Your reply is an example of the problem - completely oblivious to the users that are horribly underserved by 2FA as it exists.
- parkingrift 4y agoIf your argument relies on classifying the elderly and virtually every corporate employee as technical users perhaps you should rethink your argument.
- lucasyvas 4y agoYou're reading what you want to read because your position has no strong foundation. At no point has a specific age or employee class been a cornerstone of the argument. You can simply wait for the day that you are screwed by bad 2FA and then it will be obvious how stupid it is. A mistake can happen to anyone - even the people that know what they're doing.
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