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As an aside no matter what your intent or is, the "just asking questions!" angle is now a pretty huge red flag for many people as it's a well-known tactic to sl
by smcl 4y ago
As an aside no matter what your intent or is, the "just asking questions!" angle is now a pretty huge red flag for many people as it's a well-known tactic to slowly introduce extreme beliefs into the mainstream. I know the HN guidelines say "Assume good faith", but by now you cannot be surprised if people react strongly when you do this.
- libertine 4y agoI admit that this is a red flag for me, because from my latest experience it degenerates into "whataboutism", which is part of the russian rhetoric. "What about Iraq war? What about NATO expansions?..." as a means to justify the invasion.
- theironhammer 4y agoWhat about the civil war in Ukraine since 2014? What about the Minsk accords that Zelenksy was elected to implement but didn't? That was the wish of the Ukrainian people. There are factions in Ukraine who wanted war with Russia. It's not about justifying the Russian invasion or defending it. Its about if you provoke a war you'll get a war.
- libertine 4y agoWhat about all of that? Those are internal affairs of Ukraine, which they were addressing internally through democracy. If there were factions in Ukraine who wanted war with Russia... where were they? When did they invade russia? Also... why the hell does a "faction" want go war against Russia? Makes no sense. There were no provocations. The only provocation was the will of the Ukrainian people.