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I sympathize with your overall cautionary sentiment but have to push back on it as it pertains to Guix not adding value. I chose to use Guix SD because I like

I sympathize with your overall cautionary sentiment but have to push back on it as it pertains to Guix not adding value. I chose to use Guix SD because I like that the config is in a real (more general purpose) language, which I then proceeded to learn. From what I understand (someone that knows Nix can chime in) the Guix CLI is also more parsimonious than the Nix CLI, and not multiple differently named tools. I like the simpler interface this provides. It is however a bummer that there's no socially-approved way to share packages of non-free software on the official channels (what are the unofficial channels I should know about? Just have been searching Github to find).

forgotpwd16 4y ago
>not multiple differently named tools. I like the simpler interface this provides They've been working towards this with the (introduced[0] in v2 few years ago) experimental `nix` command that combines the various `nix-*` commands. [0]: https://nixos.org/manual/nix/stable/release-notes/rl-2.0.html#:~:text=new%20command%20named%20nix https://nixos.org/manual/nix/stable/release-notes/rl-2.0.htm...
grumbel 4y ago
NixOS has had the new `nix` command for a long while, this bundles up all the functionality under one command just like `apt` or `guix`. It's still marked as experimental and has to be enabled manually, but once done you'll never have to touch any of the old commands ever again. The only problem left is that a lot of the documentation still refers to the old commands. > It is however a bummer that there's no socially-approved way to share packages of non-free software on the official channels There is https://gitlab.com/nonguix/nonguix https://gitlab.com/nonguix/nonguix That's one thing I prefer about NixOS, with Nix Flakes you can just turn any old Git repository into a package. No need to be part of any channels or need for the user to setup anything, you can just build and install straight from the upstream source with a single command line if they provide a `flake.nix` file. This automatically resolves a lot of pointless drama about what should or shouldn't be part of the distribution and makes it trivial to distribute patches and workarounds.
- singpolyma3 4y ago
  Yes, this is also how I mostly use guix, just use the guix.scm file and not bother with a channel.

forgotpwd16 4y ago

>not multiple differently named tools. I like the simpler interface this provides They've been working towards this with the (introduced[0] in v2 few years ago) experimental `nix` command that combines the various `nix-*` commands. [0]: https://nixos.org/manual/nix/stable/release-notes/rl-2.0.html#:~:text=new%20command%20named%20nix https://nixos.org/manual/nix/stable/release-notes/rl-2.0.htm...

grumbel 4y ago

NixOS has had the new `nix` command for a long while, this bundles up all the functionality under one command just like `apt` or `guix`. It's still marked as experimental and has to be enabled manually, but once done you'll never have to touch any of the old commands ever again. The only problem left is that a lot of the documentation still refers to the old commands. > It is however a bummer that there's no socially-approved way to share packages of non-free software on the official channels There is https://gitlab.com/nonguix/nonguix https://gitlab.com/nonguix/nonguix That's one thing I prefer about NixOS, with Nix Flakes you can just turn any old Git repository into a package. No need to be part of any channels or need for the user to setup anything, you can just build and install straight from the upstream source with a single command line if they provide a `flake.nix` file. This automatically resolves a lot of pointless drama about what should or shouldn't be part of the distribution and makes it trivial to distribute patches and workarounds.

singpolyma3 4y ago
Yes, this is also how I mostly use guix, just use the guix.scm file and not bother with a channel.