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It’s obvious: Networking equipment is responsible for transferring your personal data. Especially in home network where it might not be encrypted. Hell, I don’

It’s obvious: Networking equipment is responsible for transferring your personal data. Especially in home network where it might not be encrypted. Hell, I don’t even trust most big brands. Run my own FreeBSD + pfsense + well known NICs from Intel sourced from Provantage or other data center distributor. Not eBay or Amazon.

TheRealPomax 4y ago
That's... not obvious at all, no? Even if it's a rando-brand, you're going to have to dig deep to show these things actually phone home. Because so far that's been a lovely little tinfoil hat conspiracy theory that just doesn't hold up to reality.
- louky 4y ago
  Hilariously lawful intercept^1 is a baked-in Backdoor on many US branded devices like from Cisco. It taps ports and exfils data surreptitiously. Not just legal but legally required. 1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawful_interception https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawful_interception
  - Hikikomori 4y ago
    Only on equipment an ISP would use.
- systemvoltage 4y ago
  I am responding to GP's skepticism of random Chinese networking equipment in your home and their skepticism is obvious; that's what I meant. Then I proceed to explaining my own reasons at home. Now whether you agree with GP or my statements is entirely orthogonal and up for debate. There were a number of responses asking "Why?" so I took a stab at the obvious. Sure for most people, it is a pain to dig into these things. I can negligible sometimes too. And it can be just a woo woo conspiracy in my brain, possible.
fishywang 4y ago
what personal data is transferred in plaintext nowadays? really the whole "trusted/privileged network" thing is outdated. your life will be much easier if you don't trust any network.
- fomine3 4y ago
  SMB isn't encrypted by default
  - Godel_unicode 4y ago
    Maybe for ancient versions on out-of-support Windows OSes or the odd appliance but SMB has been encrypted by default since at least 2016.
  - ZiiS 4y ago
    In Windows 10 and 11 file sharing is strongly encrypted by default. I don't even know how to turn it off; only an option to degrade to 40bit DES for old devices.

TheRealPomax 4y ago

That's... not obvious at all, no? Even if it's a rando-brand, you're going to have to dig deep to show these things actually phone home. Because so far that's been a lovely little tinfoil hat conspiracy theory that just doesn't hold up to reality.

louky 4y ago
Hilariously lawful intercept^1 is a baked-in Backdoor on many US branded devices like from Cisco. It taps ports and exfils data surreptitiously. Not just legal but legally required. 1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawful_interception https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawful_interception
- Hikikomori 4y ago
  Only on equipment an ISP would use.
systemvoltage 4y ago
I am responding to GP's skepticism of random Chinese networking equipment in your home and their skepticism is obvious; that's what I meant. Then I proceed to explaining my own reasons at home. Now whether you agree with GP or my statements is entirely orthogonal and up for debate. There were a number of responses asking "Why?" so I took a stab at the obvious. Sure for most people, it is a pain to dig into these things. I can negligible sometimes too. And it can be just a woo woo conspiracy in my brain, possible.

fishywang 4y ago

what personal data is transferred in plaintext nowadays? really the whole "trusted/privileged network" thing is outdated. your life will be much easier if you don't trust any network.

fomine3 4y ago
SMB isn't encrypted by default
- Godel_unicode 4y ago
  Maybe for ancient versions on out-of-support Windows OSes or the odd appliance but SMB has been encrypted by default since at least 2016.
- ZiiS 4y ago
  In Windows 10 and 11 file sharing is strongly encrypted by default. I don't even know how to turn it off; only an option to degrade to 40bit DES for old devices.