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Been playing around with Think C on my old macs after seeing these videos and it’s great bc fun but I really miss my modern vim. Does anyone know if it’s possib

Been playing around with Think C on my old macs after seeing these videos and it’s great bc fun but I really miss my modern vim. Does anyone know if it’s possible to cross compile or something? (Tried a shared folder with apple share but the resource fork of the source file gets clobbered) System 6 is older than me so I don’t know all the stuff that people do from back in the day.

yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
I'm pretty sure vi/m needs a proper terminal, so... actually that might not be surmountable, given that there were probably BBS clients back then. But I suspect it would be easier to write a file system adapter that could let you safely share the files then to try and support a modern program in that kind of resource constrained environment.
- NegativeLatency 4y ago
  Oh yeah that sounds nearly intractable for me, I actually wanted to work on a modern Mac and deploy to a classic Mac I’d guess nearly a whole terminal was implemented for vim 5 on classic macs: https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/vim https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/vim
- emptyparadise 4y ago
  Knowing vim, there has to be a classic Mac version.
mwcremer 4y ago
Cross-development tools here: https://github.com/autc04/Retro68 https://github.com/autc04/Retro68 And a setup walkthrough: https://henlin.net/2021/12/03/a-simplified-guide-to-development-using-retro68-and-pce-macplus/ https://henlin.net/2021/12/03/a-simplified-guide-to-developm...
- NegativeLatency 4y ago
  Amazing thanks!
atommclain 4y ago
Getting Vim to run on a Macintosh Plus with System 6 is actually a project I’m currently working on. The old Mac Vim binary versions 5.7 and 6.2 will only run on System 7 and up, and in my testing require a computer with color capabilities. Progress is slow. There’s a lot of surface area; Vim’s codebase, the Macintosh toolbox routines, getting the code to build with CodeWarrior in a VM, setting up all the right libraries, and then running/testing it in a different VM. Current status is that Vim can startup and you can enter text and quasi save it to a file. Movement commands work. But there’s a LOT more to do. Resources to get started for those who may be curious: https://github.com/vim/vim-history/ https://github.com/vim/vim-history/ older source code, I’m currently working off the 6.2.350 tag https://vintageapple.org/ https://vintageapple.org/ amazing site for technical info https://macintoshgarden.org/ https://macintoshgarden.org/ resource for old Mac software
- mburee 4y ago
  May be easier with one of the derivatives which come in with smaller code bases.
suprjami 4y ago
I think I vaguely remember running this in Mini vMac: http://www.afturgurluk.org/mirrors/macintosh/macvim.org_MacClassic/ http://www.afturgurluk.org/mirrors/macintosh/macvim.org_MacC... Caveat emptor :P

yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago

I'm pretty sure vi/m needs a proper terminal, so... actually that might not be surmountable, given that there were probably BBS clients back then. But I suspect it would be easier to write a file system adapter that could let you safely share the files then to try and support a modern program in that kind of resource constrained environment.

NegativeLatency 4y ago
Oh yeah that sounds nearly intractable for me, I actually wanted to work on a modern Mac and deploy to a classic Mac I’d guess nearly a whole terminal was implemented for vim 5 on classic macs: https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/vim https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/vim
emptyparadise 4y ago
Knowing vim, there has to be a classic Mac version.

mwcremer 4y ago

Cross-development tools here: https://github.com/autc04/Retro68 https://github.com/autc04/Retro68 And a setup walkthrough: https://henlin.net/2021/12/03/a-simplified-guide-to-development-using-retro68-and-pce-macplus/ https://henlin.net/2021/12/03/a-simplified-guide-to-developm...

NegativeLatency 4y ago
Amazing thanks!

atommclain 4y ago

Getting Vim to run on a Macintosh Plus with System 6 is actually a project I’m currently working on. The old Mac Vim binary versions 5.7 and 6.2 will only run on System 7 and up, and in my testing require a computer with color capabilities. Progress is slow. There’s a lot of surface area; Vim’s codebase, the Macintosh toolbox routines, getting the code to build with CodeWarrior in a VM, setting up all the right libraries, and then running/testing it in a different VM. Current status is that Vim can startup and you can enter text and quasi save it to a file. Movement commands work. But there’s a LOT more to do. Resources to get started for those who may be curious: https://github.com/vim/vim-history/ https://github.com/vim/vim-history/ older source code, I’m currently working off the 6.2.350 tag https://vintageapple.org/ https://vintageapple.org/ amazing site for technical info https://macintoshgarden.org/ https://macintoshgarden.org/ resource for old Mac software

mburee 4y ago
May be easier with one of the derivatives which come in with smaller code bases.

suprjami 4y ago

I think I vaguely remember running this in Mini vMac: http://www.afturgurluk.org/mirrors/macintosh/macvim.org_MacClassic/ http://www.afturgurluk.org/mirrors/macintosh/macvim.org_MacC... Caveat emptor :P