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Research involving human subjects (psychology, cognitive neuroscience, behavioral economics, etc.) requires institutional review board approval and informed con

by dmicah 4y ago

Research involving human subjects (psychology, cognitive neuroscience, behavioral economics, etc.) requires institutional review board approval and informed consent, etc. but mostly doesn't involve HIPAA either.

charcircuit 4y ago
That is not a law.
- icedchai 4y ago
  There are actually laws around such things. You can read about them here: https://www.hhs.gov/ohrp/index.html https://www.hhs.gov/ohrp/index.html
  - charcircuit 4y ago
    That only applies to government / government sponsored research. That is different from someone doing their own research
    - icedchai 4y ago
      This is true, but to say it is "not a law", as you did, completely unqualified, is incorrect. If the research project is connected with a government grant (and many are) you need to pay attention to those laws. Many universities also have their own policies you need to follow, regardless. (Requiring informed consent and protecting people's privacy seems like a good thing.)
      - charcircuit 4y ago
        Let me repeat it another way. The law only restricts the actions of the government. Members of a university are not the government. Even if they took government money they could legally ignore all of that stuff. Worst case you will not get more funding from them in the future.
        icedchai 4y ago
        I believe you are technically correct, but that does not change the fact that universities have IRBs and will require reviews/approval if you are connected to that institution. You really think they're going to put their funding at risk? This seems very unlikely. I found this article: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1073110520917030 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1073110520917030
Fomite 4y ago
And many, many institutions are over cautious. My own university, for example, has no data classification between "It would be totally okay if anyone in the university has access" and "Regulated data", so "I mean, it's health information, and it's governed by our data use agreement with the provider..." gets it kicked to the same level as full-fat HIPAA data.

by dmicah 4y ago

charcircuit 4y ago

That is not a law.

icedchai 4y ago
There are actually laws around such things. You can read about them here: https://www.hhs.gov/ohrp/index.html https://www.hhs.gov/ohrp/index.html
- charcircuit 4y ago
  That only applies to government / government sponsored research. That is different from someone doing their own research
  - icedchai 4y ago
    This is true, but to say it is "not a law", as you did, completely unqualified, is incorrect. If the research project is connected with a government grant (and many are) you need to pay attention to those laws. Many universities also have their own policies you need to follow, regardless. (Requiring informed consent and protecting people's privacy seems like a good thing.)
    - charcircuit 4y ago
      Let me repeat it another way. The law only restricts the actions of the government. Members of a university are not the government. Even if they took government money they could legally ignore all of that stuff. Worst case you will not get more funding from them in the future.
      - icedchai 4y ago
        I believe you are technically correct, but that does not change the fact that universities have IRBs and will require reviews/approval if you are connected to that institution. You really think they're going to put their funding at risk? This seems very unlikely. I found this article: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1073110520917030 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1073110520917030

Fomite 4y ago

And many, many institutions are over cautious. My own university, for example, has no data classification between "It would be totally okay if anyone in the university has access" and "Regulated data", so "I mean, it's health information, and it's governed by our data use agreement with the provider..." gets it kicked to the same level as full-fat HIPAA data.