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> being exposed to far right beliefs just makes me more and more crazy > watching the thought processes behind those rants I think, perhaps, the problem stem

> being exposed to far right beliefs just makes me more and more crazy > watching the thought processes behind those rants I think, perhaps, the problem stems from only paying attention to people who are making emotional arguments based on ideology or repeated talking points that they don't truly understand but simply feel align with whatever group they see themselves as belonging to. This is the partisanship or tribalism that seems to be poisoning a lot of public discourse. I specifically say discourse here because I don't believe it is actually disrupting society at the interpersonal level as much as popular opinion seems to think it is. With either side, if you examine the well reasoned arguments that underly a lot of the talking points you find that they are often quite different and more nuanced than the things firebrands are turning them into. This is troubling because it means even the people who supposedly believe in these ideas actually don't understand them at all. I think this is responsible for the phenomenon of people turning out to be over all much more centrist and agreeing with each other when they make an effort to sit down and discuss these things in a rational manner. My advice is to shun reddit, YouTube and twitter and instead find some old books that discuss the topics in a rational way from a variety of perspectives, read them and then draw your own conclusions.

mikkergp 4y ago
Yeah You’re totally not wrong, I just had a reaction to the oft mentioned on the media pop psychology version of “get out of your bubbles” that is too abstract for most people to act on.
watwut 4y ago
I would argue that him not liking far right people is a good outcome rather then bad one. Him becoming far right too would be the worst outcome possible. Because then far right would become bigger and that is catastrophic for their targets. Far right has victims, a lot of them. Becoming friendly with far right by moving closer and closer to them while ignoring victims is wrong strategy.
- PsySecGroup 4y ago
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- mkd1964 4y ago
  There's really very little difference between far left and far right. They're both radical extremes that allow no diversity of thought and that demand unquestioning allegiance to the tribe. Contrary to popular sentiment (or media narratives) they will both resort to verbal and physical violence in support of their views. The only real difference is their opinion of government. Leftist want a total nanny state, far right-wingers want anarchy -- until one of them actually takes power. Then they both take the form of a dictatorship in some form. Unfortunately, in today's atmosphere (and the sentiment in your comment seems to betray this), people on the left view anyone who's actually a moderate or even slightly right-of-center as "far right".

mikkergp 4y ago

Yeah You’re totally not wrong, I just had a reaction to the oft mentioned on the media pop psychology version of “get out of your bubbles” that is too abstract for most people to act on.

watwut 4y ago

I would argue that him not liking far right people is a good outcome rather then bad one. Him becoming far right too would be the worst outcome possible. Because then far right would become bigger and that is catastrophic for their targets. Far right has victims, a lot of them. Becoming friendly with far right by moving closer and closer to them while ignoring victims is wrong strategy.

PsySecGroup 4y ago
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mkd1964 4y ago
There's really very little difference between far left and far right. They're both radical extremes that allow no diversity of thought and that demand unquestioning allegiance to the tribe. Contrary to popular sentiment (or media narratives) they will both resort to verbal and physical violence in support of their views. The only real difference is their opinion of government. Leftist want a total nanny state, far right-wingers want anarchy -- until one of them actually takes power. Then they both take the form of a dictatorship in some form. Unfortunately, in today's atmosphere (and the sentiment in your comment seems to betray this), people on the left view anyone who's actually a moderate or even slightly right-of-center as "far right".