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The open source code powering Occupy Wall Street

79 points by clutchski 15y ago

keeran 15y ago
Not sure if this is applicable, but an aggregator of sorts was put together for a local hack day a couple of weeks ago: http://occupywhere.herokuapp.com/ http://occupywhere.herokuapp.com/ https://github.com/markturner/Occupy https://github.com/markturner/Occupy
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- auntZeituni 15y ago
  That should come as no surprise. The OWS movement is composed of White neo-plebeians: they want free stuff, and they want it NOW. Thanks to the effort of this folk, especially in the 1960s, the Western civilization is way past its peak.
- daeken 15y ago
  I don't really understand how that's relevant. Either his stuff contributes positively to the project and makes it in/stays in, or it doesn't and it's replaced with code that does. What's the point of this comment, aside from saying "someone involved with this project is a bad programmer, because an anonymous guy on the Internet says so"?
eegilbert 15y ago
My favorite is the forum that runs on (and only requires) a Linksys router. https://github.com/FLOSolutions/openwrt-forum https://github.com/FLOSolutions/openwrt-forum
- JonnieCache 15y ago
  So that's about 5-7 watts. Pretty sweet.
- ams6110 15y ago
  Said router, of course, the product of a capitalist organization....
  - _delirium 15y ago
    Well, if you demand nobody use anything that their ideological opponents produce, then anticapitalists can't use anything ever produced by a company (like this router), and libertarians can't use anything ever produced by a government (like the internet). Then only apolitical flexible people are allowed to even get online at all...
    - philwelch 15y ago
      That's fine by me!
    - suivix 15y ago
      Private corporations created most of the Internet and run all of it.
    - javert 15y ago
      I'm sorry, but the Internet was not "produced by the government." ARPANET was. Besides, ARPANET was for military purposes, which many liberatrians (rightly) consider to be a proper government function.
  - forkandwait 15y ago
    Said router is probably as much a product of DARPA and other government subsidized research as whatever organization produces the actual machine itself. (Anybody who thinks a pure economic system is possible, whether libertarian or socialist, is a naive fool.)
    - javert 15y ago
      Actually, I bet you can't name a single country whose economic system wasn't possible. - Soviet Union: Possible - Cuba: Possible - North Korea: Possible - United States, 19th century: Possible - United States, now: Possible - European mercantilism: Possible So, please don't lecture me on who's foolish.
198d 15y ago
The 'occupywallst' project's description reads: 'Stomping out capitalism, one line of code at a time'. Is that truly the goal; to eradicate capitalism?
- _delirium 15y ago
  Depends on who you ask, and how broadly you define "capitalism". On the definition side, some people define capitalism really broadly as anything that involves markets, while others distinguish between capitalism per se (driven by investment of large accumulations of capital) and market competition in other arrangements, like mutualism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualism_(economic_theory) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualism_(economic_theory)). I would guess that some people want to get rid of the narrower kind, others want to get rid of the broader kind, and others have separate goals entirely (perhaps more reformist ones, like European-style welfare-state capitalism).
  - tptacek 15y ago
    Your guess is as interesting as mine, but from direct experience, the people with framed posters of Hugo Chavez in their living rooms are well represented in OWS.
- noahc 15y ago
  It's a bit more nuanced than that; they really mean 'stomping out capitalism for all values of capitalism that involve political corruption and destroying the middle class'.
  - ChuckMcM 15y ago
    Seriously? That seems to speak to a lack of knowledge about how economics actually works. Would they say 'stomping out programming tools that let people write evil code' ? My confusion stems from the fact that political corruption and the plight of the middle class have less to do with 'capitalism' (an economic theory involving free markets) and more to do with 'some people are evil.' There seems to have been as much 'political corruption' and 'middle class stomping' in the Soviet Union and they didn't actually have capitalism as an economic theory. That is why it confuses me when capitalism seems to be the target. The institutions in the US that protect citizens have been under served by people who they represent. That I get. How many times have you heard someone ask for ideas for 'avoiding doing jury duty' or 'only one loser is running for school board seat 12'. Those institutions, the justice system, local governments, are the pre-cursor institutions of Congress and federal departments. What is more impressive to me is that you have to let someone serve who gets elected and a lot of places you can get elected just by throwing your name in the hat (I'm talking various cities and counties around the US, no Congress). So why isn't it "OccupyLocalGovernment" ? Then you could do stuff like prevent disasters of Bell California [1]. You know, "Think nationally, serve locally." kind of thing. Get some experience running the city, move up to the county, then state, then you'll be well trained and positioned to run for Congress and fix things. Frankly if folks did that it would scare the crap out of the New American Century types. [1] http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-more-high-bell-salaries,0,7947506.story http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-more-high-bell-salarie... [2] http://www.newamericancentury.org/ http://www.newamericancentury.org/
danbmil99 15y ago
Hah, I read it as "the open source code powering Wall Street". Was all set for some hot tips about tweaking your kernel for high-frequency currency arbitrage, but no...

79 points by clutchski 15y ago

Not sure if this is applicable, but an aggregator of sorts was put together for a local hack day a couple of weeks ago: http://occupywhere.herokuapp.com/ http://occupywhere.herokuapp.com/ https://github.com/markturner/Occupy https://github.com/markturner/Occupy

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auntZeituni 15y ago
That should come as no surprise. The OWS movement is composed of White neo-plebeians: they want free stuff, and they want it NOW. Thanks to the effort of this folk, especially in the 1960s, the Western civilization is way past its peak.
daeken 15y ago
I don't really understand how that's relevant. Either his stuff contributes positively to the project and makes it in/stays in, or it doesn't and it's replaced with code that does. What's the point of this comment, aside from saying "someone involved with this project is a bad programmer, because an anonymous guy on the Internet says so"?

eegilbert 15y ago

My favorite is the forum that runs on (and only requires) a Linksys router. https://github.com/FLOSolutions/openwrt-forum https://github.com/FLOSolutions/openwrt-forum

JonnieCache 15y ago
So that's about 5-7 watts. Pretty sweet.
ams6110 15y ago
Said router, of course, the product of a capitalist organization....
- _delirium 15y ago
  Well, if you demand nobody use anything that their ideological opponents produce, then anticapitalists can't use anything ever produced by a company (like this router), and libertarians can't use anything ever produced by a government (like the internet). Then only apolitical flexible people are allowed to even get online at all...
  - philwelch 15y ago
    That's fine by me!
  - suivix 15y ago
    Private corporations created most of the Internet and run all of it.
  - javert 15y ago
    I'm sorry, but the Internet was not "produced by the government." ARPANET was. Besides, ARPANET was for military purposes, which many liberatrians (rightly) consider to be a proper government function.
- forkandwait 15y ago
  Said router is probably as much a product of DARPA and other government subsidized research as whatever organization produces the actual machine itself. (Anybody who thinks a pure economic system is possible, whether libertarian or socialist, is a naive fool.)
  - javert 15y ago
    Actually, I bet you can't name a single country whose economic system wasn't possible. - Soviet Union: Possible - Cuba: Possible - North Korea: Possible - United States, 19th century: Possible - United States, now: Possible - European mercantilism: Possible So, please don't lecture me on who's foolish.

198d 15y ago

The 'occupywallst' project's description reads: 'Stomping out capitalism, one line of code at a time'. Is that truly the goal; to eradicate capitalism?

_delirium 15y ago
Depends on who you ask, and how broadly you define "capitalism". On the definition side, some people define capitalism really broadly as anything that involves markets, while others distinguish between capitalism per se (driven by investment of large accumulations of capital) and market competition in other arrangements, like mutualism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualism_(economic_theory) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualism_(economic_theory)). I would guess that some people want to get rid of the narrower kind, others want to get rid of the broader kind, and others have separate goals entirely (perhaps more reformist ones, like European-style welfare-state capitalism).
- tptacek 15y ago
  Your guess is as interesting as mine, but from direct experience, the people with framed posters of Hugo Chavez in their living rooms are well represented in OWS.
noahc 15y ago
It's a bit more nuanced than that; they really mean 'stomping out capitalism for all values of capitalism that involve political corruption and destroying the middle class'.
- ChuckMcM 15y ago
  Seriously? That seems to speak to a lack of knowledge about how economics actually works. Would they say 'stomping out programming tools that let people write evil code' ? My confusion stems from the fact that political corruption and the plight of the middle class have less to do with 'capitalism' (an economic theory involving free markets) and more to do with 'some people are evil.' There seems to have been as much 'political corruption' and 'middle class stomping' in the Soviet Union and they didn't actually have capitalism as an economic theory. That is why it confuses me when capitalism seems to be the target. The institutions in the US that protect citizens have been under served by people who they represent. That I get. How many times have you heard someone ask for ideas for 'avoiding doing jury duty' or 'only one loser is running for school board seat 12'. Those institutions, the justice system, local governments, are the pre-cursor institutions of Congress and federal departments. What is more impressive to me is that you have to let someone serve who gets elected and a lot of places you can get elected just by throwing your name in the hat (I'm talking various cities and counties around the US, no Congress). So why isn't it "OccupyLocalGovernment" ? Then you could do stuff like prevent disasters of Bell California [1]. You know, "Think nationally, serve locally." kind of thing. Get some experience running the city, move up to the county, then state, then you'll be well trained and positioned to run for Congress and fix things. Frankly if folks did that it would scare the crap out of the New American Century types. [1] http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-more-high-bell-salaries,0,7947506.story http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-more-high-bell-salarie... [2] http://www.newamericancentury.org/ http://www.newamericancentury.org/

danbmil99 15y ago

Hah, I read it as "the open source code powering Wall Street". Was all set for some hot tips about tweaking your kernel for high-frequency currency arbitrage, but no...