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When using encrypted chats is it not secure? I thought the biggest problem is that we simply don't know - but your comment seems to suggest it's been proven ins
by lijogdfljk 4y ago
When using encrypted chats is it not secure? I thought the biggest problem is that we simply don't know - but your comment seems to suggest it's been proven insecure even when using encrypted chats?
- palata 4y agoThe problem is that people misunderstand the security model in Telegram, and believe that it's e2ee. Except that most features are not, only secret chats are e2ee, and people mostly don't use those (because the whole point of Telegram is the nice group features).
- lloeki 4y ago> only secret chats are e2ee IIRC audio and video calls are E2EE as well (in addition, the four emoji that appear on a call allows both parties to check that no one is eavesdropping)
- palata 4y agoThat's not an addition: e2ee requires a way to verify keys. Without that it's not proper e2ee.
- orangepurple 4y agoThe main reason to not use e2ee is being able to access, send, and receive messages concurrently on multiple computers at the same time.
- palata 4y agoYes, and that's a choice. You can choose UX (Telegram) over privacy (Signal), and I am fine with it. Just don't pretend that Telegram is private.