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I remember there being a CD that when ripped would intentionally damage the speakers with some type of noise randomness. Also the sony rootkit And madonna's "

by aliqot 4y ago

I remember there being a CD that when ripped would intentionally damage the speakers with some type of noise randomness. Also the sony rootkit And madonna's "what are you doing"

SllX 4y ago
> I remember there being a CD that when ripped would intentionally damage/destroy the speakers with some type of frequency sweep or noise. I don’t remember this one. I tried to find it but Google is littered with CD recommendations to “break in” speakers because “break” is a synonym for “destroy”. Do you happen to recall which CD this was?
- aliqot 4y ago
  There were quite a few actually, most of this was sony's doing. The most destructive was XCP around the time of MediaMax, which used randomness in what tones they produced, which would damage speakers unpredictably. "MediaMax introduces a large amount of random jitter, making the disc sound like it has been badly scratched or damaged; XCP replaces the audio with random noise." Key2Audio was the first tech that comes to mind that did this, originally employed on Celinne Dione's "A New Day Has Come" album. It would cause all types of issues, but one being random audio blips that sounded like when you turn on a bitcrusher and press the overdrive, it's easy to see how this can damage a speaker. https://www.cs.umd.edu/class/spring2017/cmsc818O/papers/lessons-from-sony.pdf https://www.cs.umd.edu/class/spring2017/cmsc818O/papers/less... https://www.xboxaddict.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-10494.html https://www.xboxaddict.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-10494.... https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2127-copy-protected-dion-disk-is-sonys-first/ https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2127-copy-protected-d... https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/dion-disc-could-bring-pcs-to-a-standstill/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/dion-disc-co...
  - SllX 4y ago
    That’s insane. I remember the Sony Rootkit scandal from 2005 and Sony’s reputation started to tank around then but I didn’t know it was the successor to another piss poor attempt to copy protect CDs. TIL. Thanks!
gjsman-1000 4y ago
They tried very hard after the PC became capable of making clones… but Phillips prohibited them from using the CD trademark proper because they were never as compatible as they needed to be. And there were embarrassing lawsuits. The law speaks louder than complaining users or a stubborn executive.
ubermonkey 4y ago
>I remember there being a CD that when ripped would intentionally damage/destroy the speakers with some type of frequency sweep or noise. That sounds like the home audio equivalent of the "poisoned/drug laced Halloween candy" story, which is to say "something that did not happen."
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- aliqot 4y ago
  I posted links. No need to act like I'm just making it up, these were events I was present for and remember clearly.
  - jeffbee 4y ago
    None of your links support the claim that these discs could damage your loudspeakers. That's the mythical part. The final stage in digital-to-analog conversion is a reconstruction filter that removes the non-sonic contents of the output. There's nothing you can put on a CD that will destroy your loudspeakers.

by aliqot 4y ago

I remember there being a CD that when ripped would intentionally damage the speakers with some type of noise randomness. Also the sony rootkit And madonna's "what are you doing"

SllX 4y ago

> I remember there being a CD that when ripped would intentionally damage/destroy the speakers with some type of frequency sweep or noise. I don’t remember this one. I tried to find it but Google is littered with CD recommendations to “break in” speakers because “break” is a synonym for “destroy”. Do you happen to recall which CD this was?

aliqot 4y ago
There were quite a few actually, most of this was sony's doing. The most destructive was XCP around the time of MediaMax, which used randomness in what tones they produced, which would damage speakers unpredictably. "MediaMax introduces a large amount of random jitter, making the disc sound like it has been badly scratched or damaged; XCP replaces the audio with random noise." Key2Audio was the first tech that comes to mind that did this, originally employed on Celinne Dione's "A New Day Has Come" album. It would cause all types of issues, but one being random audio blips that sounded like when you turn on a bitcrusher and press the overdrive, it's easy to see how this can damage a speaker. https://www.cs.umd.edu/class/spring2017/cmsc818O/papers/lessons-from-sony.pdf https://www.cs.umd.edu/class/spring2017/cmsc818O/papers/less... https://www.xboxaddict.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-10494.html https://www.xboxaddict.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-10494.... https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2127-copy-protected-dion-disk-is-sonys-first/ https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2127-copy-protected-d... https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/dion-disc-could-bring-pcs-to-a-standstill/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/dion-disc-co...
- SllX 4y ago
  That’s insane. I remember the Sony Rootkit scandal from 2005 and Sony’s reputation started to tank around then but I didn’t know it was the successor to another piss poor attempt to copy protect CDs. TIL. Thanks!

gjsman-1000 4y ago

They tried very hard after the PC became capable of making clones… but Phillips prohibited them from using the CD trademark proper because they were never as compatible as they needed to be. And there were embarrassing lawsuits. The law speaks louder than complaining users or a stubborn executive.

ubermonkey 4y ago

>I remember there being a CD that when ripped would intentionally damage/destroy the speakers with some type of frequency sweep or noise. That sounds like the home audio equivalent of the "poisoned/drug laced Halloween candy" story, which is to say "something that did not happen."

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aliqot 4y ago
I posted links. No need to act like I'm just making it up, these were events I was present for and remember clearly.
- jeffbee 4y ago
  None of your links support the claim that these discs could damage your loudspeakers. That's the mythical part. The final stage in digital-to-analog conversion is a reconstruction filter that removes the non-sonic contents of the output. There's nothing you can put on a CD that will destroy your loudspeakers.