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My answers are a mix, I guess. 1) Possible but I don't know 2) Very likely 3) Very unlikely 4) Don't know what this means. What is the "American Project"?
by fallingfrog 4y ago
My answers are a mix, I guess.
1) Possible but I don't know
2) Very likely
3) Very unlikely
4) Don't know what this means. What is the "American Project"?
5) Vague; is the assertion that the allegations were lies or the conclusions?
6) Very unlikely but I haven't looked at the data
7) His actions led to deaths, and none of the people that died deserved death for anything they did, so yes he did something wrong
I feel like these are just kind of common sense opinions? None of my answers to these questions feel partisan, at least not to me.
I definitely have different ways of determining truth than many other people, I suppose. I am absolutely certain, for example, that none of the creation myths or supernatural dieties that we have invented are real in any measurable way. I am pretty sure that most of the stories in, for example, the Bible were always meant to be read as metaphorical anyway. But the vast majority of the human race apparently disagrees with me on that, which blows my mind. How can they not see something so plainly obvious? It shouldn't even be a serious question. How do you deal with the fact that the majority of your fellow humans believe things that are obviously silly? I apparently just don't understand what normal people are doing when they say they are thinking. So the whole Qanon thing is on one level pretty much what you would expect from a species like us, and on another level it's still utterly baffling.
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- aliqot 4y ago7. This is a unique take
- fallingfrog 4y agoWell- it's a minimal statement that I thought most everyone would agree with. You may or may not think he acted in self defense, or you may or may not think what he did was illegal, but at the bare minimum you should be able to agree that 1) people died 2) those people didn't need to die and 3) Kyle Rittenhouse bears responsibility for those deaths. Those 3 facts are sufficient to establish that "Kyle Rittenhouse did nothing wrong" is a false statement. It's an easy target though- the assertion is that he did nothing wrong, which is a very extreme statement and therefore easy to attack.
- aliqot 4y agoIt doesn't matter what I think happened.
- spywaregorilla 4y ago> I feel like these are just kind of common sense opinions? The difference is that you've answered every question as a probability of some unknown, which is just not something that most people do. > I am pretty sure that most of the stories in, for example, the Bible were always meant to be read as metaphorical anyway. That seems like a hot take. The bible being intended to be metaphorical seems unlikely. Especially given how much of it is just a straight historical log of things that happened. The stories were certainly embellished to convey certain takeaways, but it seems unlikely that you as the consumer were supposed to read past the embellishment. Retconning interpretations of things to be figurative because they no longer hold up against irrefutable science these days doesn't mean the text was intended to be figurative.
- fallingfrog 4y agoWell, I don't know for sure that I'm right about that. But: take the garden of eden story. It's a metaphor for coming of age. They realize they are naked. They are expelled from the garden (childhood) and must go out into the world where they face toil and hardship. They eat the forbidden fruit (sex). I think it's pretty clearly a parable. Take Noah's ark. Noah plans and looks towards the future and toils when everyone else is being lazy and is therefore safe when everyone else gets drowned, despite being laughed at and dismissed. It's a similar story to the grasshopper and the ant. Seems like a parable to me. If you're out hunting in the middle east for an apple core or scouting mount ararat for mummified timbers, or trying to add up how many days ago was the exact day of creation, you're clearly missing the point of both stories. There's a reason these stories continue to resonate centuries later, but I don't think it has anything to do with whether they are literally true.
- spywaregorilla 4y ago> Well, I don't know for sure that I'm right about that. But: take the garden of eden story. It's a metaphor for coming of age. They realize they are naked. They are expelled from the garden (childhood) and must go out into the world where they face toil and hardship. They eat the forbidden fruit (sex). I think it's pretty clearly a parable. This interpretation may have merit if it were a book written today, but it seems very unlikely to have been the intended one for the mid -100's BC audience as it wouldn't match the coming of age experience for children of that time. Children would be expected to know of sex very quickly. The Bible is also pretty clearly pro-sex for husbands and wives. The important takeaway of this story is, imo, that life is hard because people were bad. The texts also reference specific rivers, placing the garden of eden somewhere in the ballpark of modern day Iraq. And much of the aesthetics like the garden itself may simply be a rehash of Mesopotamian mythology > Take Noah's ark. Noah plans and looks towards the future and toils when everyone else is being lazy and is therefore safe when everyone else gets drowned, despite being laughed at and dismissed. It's a similar story to the grasshopper and the ant. So old testament noah lived for almost a thousand years, and spent a couple hundred of them preparing for the flood, being told what to do by God or angels. He wasn't looking toward the future, he was exclusively told by god that the flood was coming. Other people weren't lazy, they just didn't believe him. Bonus: When he gets off the boat, he feels bad and asks why god was such a dick, and god tells him that if he had asked for mercy in the first place, god wouldn't have destroyed the world, so it's noah's fault. And noah agrees. > There's a reason these stories continue to resonate centuries later, but I don't think it has anything to do with whether they are literally true. I think it has a lot to do with influential community leaders telling you have to literally believe in the texts.