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I run an instance and I really have none of these problems. Keeping open applications off solves a lot of them, you have to ask me for an invitation and I’m not

I run an instance and I really have none of these problems. Keeping open applications off solves a lot of them, you have to ask me for an invitation and I’m not going to give you one if I think you’re going to be a problem. There’s a Patreon for it that pays the server bills despite it only being a few hundred users. My users even say thanks for running the place now and then. Running a small node of The People’s Glorious Social Network is a very different task than what you are outlining.

mschuster91 4y ago
Yeah, but what point does a social network have if most of the instances are closed off to "unknowns" due to the abuse potential? The few that have open registration still have to do the workload I described => most of the users will flock to these centralized sites that somehow have to deal with the effort required.
- egypturnash 4y ago
  It's a place for me and my friends to talk, with connections to other places. A quiet little backwater. That's good enough for me to keep running it.
afavour 4y ago
> Keeping open applications off solves a lot of them, you have to ask me for an invitation But that simply doesn't scale to the level of services like Twitter. You might argue, and I would agree with you, that maybe we'd be better off without services that are too large to moderate in any meaningful way, but we are where we are. An invitation-only Mastodon network is not a viable alternative to Twitter.
- arcatech 4y ago
  But it’s federated. You can have an invite only network that still federated with the rest of the network.
- berkes 4y ago
  > An invitation-only Mastodon network It's not the network that is invitation-only. Just some servers on that network that are. The network itself is entirely permission-less.
everybodyknows 4y ago
> you have to ask me for an invitation and I’m not going to give you one if I think you’re going to be a problem. How do you vet applicants? Depending on the theme of the site, this seems like it might range from easy (gardening, cooking, ...) to excruciating (politics, medical).
- berkes 4y ago
  "My server, my rules" really is very easy. A lot often is just a simple matter of "if I don't like you, I won't give you access, or retrospectively kick you off". And the other side is that if you, as user don't like that, there are thousands of other instances to choose from. And if none are good enough for you, you can run your own.
xani_ 4y ago
> I run an instance and I really have none of these problems. Keeping open applications off solves a lot of them, you have to ask me for an invitation and I’m not going to give you one if I think you’re going to be a problem. You're not building social network then. Just a single isolated place. So obviously problems of running bigger social space won't apply as much
- tutivillusrex 4y ago

mschuster91 4y ago

Yeah, but what point does a social network have if most of the instances are closed off to "unknowns" due to the abuse potential? The few that have open registration still have to do the workload I described => most of the users will flock to these centralized sites that somehow have to deal with the effort required.

egypturnash 4y ago
It's a place for me and my friends to talk, with connections to other places. A quiet little backwater. That's good enough for me to keep running it.

afavour 4y ago

> Keeping open applications off solves a lot of them, you have to ask me for an invitation But that simply doesn't scale to the level of services like Twitter. You might argue, and I would agree with you, that maybe we'd be better off without services that are too large to moderate in any meaningful way, but we are where we are. An invitation-only Mastodon network is not a viable alternative to Twitter.

arcatech 4y ago
But it’s federated. You can have an invite only network that still federated with the rest of the network.
berkes 4y ago
> An invitation-only Mastodon network It's not the network that is invitation-only. Just some servers on that network that are. The network itself is entirely permission-less.

everybodyknows 4y ago

> you have to ask me for an invitation and I’m not going to give you one if I think you’re going to be a problem. How do you vet applicants? Depending on the theme of the site, this seems like it might range from easy (gardening, cooking, ...) to excruciating (politics, medical).

berkes 4y ago
"My server, my rules" really is very easy. A lot often is just a simple matter of "if I don't like you, I won't give you access, or retrospectively kick you off". And the other side is that if you, as user don't like that, there are thousands of other instances to choose from. And if none are good enough for you, you can run your own.

xani_ 4y ago

> I run an instance and I really have none of these problems. Keeping open applications off solves a lot of them, you have to ask me for an invitation and I’m not going to give you one if I think you’re going to be a problem. You're not building social network then. Just a single isolated place. So obviously problems of running bigger social space won't apply as much

tutivillusrex 4y ago