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Stupid people who don't read the HOA agreement they signed, and then whine after the fact that some things aren't allowed - I have no sympathy for them (and for
by ejb999 4y ago
Stupid people who don't read the HOA agreement they signed, and then whine after the fact that some things aren't allowed - I have no sympathy for them (and for the record, would never live anyplace that had an HOA).
That said, if its not in the agreement you signed, or you live someplace without an HOA, I support peoples right do hang their laundry out to dry - shouldn't even be a question of being allowed or not.
- resoluteteeth 4y agoStupid people like the first person mentioned in the article, who apparently doesn't live in an HOA and was asked by a town official to stop hanging laundry?
- s1artibartfast 4y agoThere is nothing wrong with asking.
- resoluteteeth 4y agoI don't know if I necessarily agree with that when it's someone in a position of authority like a government official who is doing the "asking" since that typically carries the implied threat of some sort of repercussions
- s1artibartfast 4y agoI don't think you can assume an implied threat here. "your neighbors keep calling the police and we have told them that it isn't illegal to hang laundry. Can you hang it in the back yard so we stop getting calls?
- mindslight 4y agoSimilar "voluntary" deed covenants were used to keep neighborhoods white, before they were overridden via state laws. While on a drastically different moral scale, and with some legitimate uses for HOAs, the world would be a better place if most types of their bylaws were similarly nullified.
- cvalka 4y agoYes. Contract law can and is frequently used to undermine property rights. As you know HOAs are indirectly mandated by municipalities.
- Gordonjcp 4y agoI don't understand how "HOAs" are legal.
- s1artibartfast 4y agoYou agree to the contract. As simple as that.
- Gordonjcp 4y agoWhy would anyone do that, then?
- s1artibartfast 4y agoBecause they might want to live in a place without laundry or rotting cars in the front yard. Also common is HOAs for 55+ year olds, who essentially don't want to deal with kids around.
- phil21 4y agoBecause in many areas these are almost the only homes available in certain price ranges and sizes. If you want new construction and are not independently wealthy, you would be extremely challenged to find a house not under a HoA. It's eye opening when looking in some areas how hundreds of square miles of developments are 100% HoA controlled. I would never buy such a place, but I do understand why some folks would feel forced into such a transaction.
- s1artibartfast 4y agoPeople like HOAs. The HOAs can vote to disband, but people don't care enough to do so. Many people feel they protect property value, and they are probably right.
- cityofdelusion 4y agoThere are literally stacks of papers that get signed when you close on a house. I imagine 90% of people just sign everything in front of them without a second thought.