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> Now we have some RedHat employees getting the news they are being transferred to an IBM area. I wonder how that's viewed from the RedHat side. Shocking absol

> Now we have some RedHat employees getting the news they are being transferred to an IBM area. I wonder how that's viewed from the RedHat side. Shocking absolutely no one. Every acquisition comes with the promise of "X will let Y operate exactly like it always has been, and we'll never steer their direction" and it has never been true.

tyingq 4y ago
In this case, I had asked some RH folks about it when the acquisition happened. There was a lot of bravado that IBM would leave it be. This is small in relative terms, but appears to be the first crack. Thus, I'm curious if it's a hot topic there.
- jhickok 4y ago
  This is for sure the biggest crack in the divide. Red Hatters have had multiple occasions for pause, however, beginning with IBM obtaining the list of Red Hat customers and trying to upsell OpenShift/IBM Software customers to Cloud Paks (IBM's embedded software solutions on OpenShift).
  - stuff4ben 4y ago
    Why would that give anyone pause? They're IBM customers now and it makes sense to sell as much as you can I would think.
- mogwire 4y ago
  Was it a crack when ACM came over from IBM to Red Hat? Or Hypershift came over from IBM to Red Hat? You align software to where it works best. IBM is better suited to develop and sell Software Defined Storage than Red Hat.
  - tyingq 4y ago
    Well the presumption is that the culture at RedHat is preferable to the one at IBM. So, no, those two moves didn't cause me to wonder about whether those teams had concern about the move.
    - supernovae 4y ago
      IBMs culture is varied.. It’s a huge company. I work at Red Hat, it’s culture is varied. I saw some people furious because of personal prejudices against IBM but many seem to be looking at this opportunistically.
robszumski 4y ago
Former Red Hatter here. It has also gone the other way, where Red Hat obtained IBM teams that were better suited to live on our side and those products were more successful via integration with other Red Hat products.
- mogwire 4y ago
  We miss you already Rob!
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tyingq 4y ago

In this case, I had asked some RH folks about it when the acquisition happened. There was a lot of bravado that IBM would leave it be. This is small in relative terms, but appears to be the first crack. Thus, I'm curious if it's a hot topic there.

jhickok 4y ago
This is for sure the biggest crack in the divide. Red Hatters have had multiple occasions for pause, however, beginning with IBM obtaining the list of Red Hat customers and trying to upsell OpenShift/IBM Software customers to Cloud Paks (IBM's embedded software solutions on OpenShift).
- stuff4ben 4y ago
  Why would that give anyone pause? They're IBM customers now and it makes sense to sell as much as you can I would think.
mogwire 4y ago
Was it a crack when ACM came over from IBM to Red Hat? Or Hypershift came over from IBM to Red Hat? You align software to where it works best. IBM is better suited to develop and sell Software Defined Storage than Red Hat.
- tyingq 4y ago
  Well the presumption is that the culture at RedHat is preferable to the one at IBM. So, no, those two moves didn't cause me to wonder about whether those teams had concern about the move.
  - supernovae 4y ago
    IBMs culture is varied.. It’s a huge company. I work at Red Hat, it’s culture is varied. I saw some people furious because of personal prejudices against IBM but many seem to be looking at this opportunistically.

robszumski 4y ago

Former Red Hatter here. It has also gone the other way, where Red Hat obtained IBM teams that were better suited to live on our side and those products were more successful via integration with other Red Hat products.

mogwire 4y ago
We miss you already Rob!

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