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Unless you plan on digging a hole in the forest, every type of storage is going to cost some type of upkeep.

by incrudible 4y ago

grishka 4y ago
But keeping a box of storage media in your closet doesn't cost you anything extra, as opposed to cloud storage.
- jefftk 4y ago
  How expensive is your housing per square foot? I suspect cloud storage is cheaper.
  - grishka 4y ago
    I don't know how common it is to own your living space in the US, but where I'm from, it is fairly common. And I don't think "how expensive per square foot" is applicable when you aren't renting. But either way, you won't be paying more in rent and/or utilities for having an extra box in your closet.
    - bluGill 4y ago
      Unless that one box is the one that causing you to buy/rent more space to store things. In general storage space is very lumpy - people have a fair amount free until they don't and need to get more space - when you get more space you tend to get a lot more. (Of course downsize/decluttering is also an option)
  - nelgaard 4y ago
    We use square meters in Denmark. The diameter of a CD/DVD is 120 mm, so you can fit 64 CD's per m² if you order them in a grid (more if you do not) A CD is 1.2 mm think. The ceiling height in my apartment is ca 2.7m, so I could fit 14400 CD's per m². If a DVD can store 10 GByte, that is ca 144 TByte. The average rent per square meter is about $20/month (more in Copenhagen, less outside the big cities). I suspect I can not store 144TByte in the cloud for $20/month. You might argue that I do have that many DVD's. But then I do have many small corners and shelves that is not much use for anything else. And it would be even more unlikely to be able to store say 14 TByte in the cloud for $2/month.
    - jefftk 4y ago
      Thanks for doing the math; you're right! Google Archive storage is $0.0012/month (3x cheaper than Amazon Glacier, which surprised me). 144TB would be $173/month, so 9x cheaper to keep in your home. I think your estimate of how many DVDs you can put in a given space is a bit optimistic: you're assuming no protection between discs and that a floor-to-ceiling tower is stable. If instead we imagine putting them in cases that double their thickness and putting collections of them in boxes that add 10% to the total height, though, it's 4x cheaper to keep them in your apartment. But if you use Blu-ray instead of DVD it's 20x cheaper!

Unless you plan on digging a hole in the forest, every type of storage is going to cost some type of upkeep.

grishka 4y ago

But keeping a box of storage media in your closet doesn't cost you anything extra, as opposed to cloud storage.

jefftk 4y ago
How expensive is your housing per square foot? I suspect cloud storage is cheaper.
- grishka 4y ago
  I don't know how common it is to own your living space in the US, but where I'm from, it is fairly common. And I don't think "how expensive per square foot" is applicable when you aren't renting. But either way, you won't be paying more in rent and/or utilities for having an extra box in your closet.
  - bluGill 4y ago
    Unless that one box is the one that causing you to buy/rent more space to store things. In general storage space is very lumpy - people have a fair amount free until they don't and need to get more space - when you get more space you tend to get a lot more. (Of course downsize/decluttering is also an option)
- nelgaard 4y ago
  We use square meters in Denmark. The diameter of a CD/DVD is 120 mm, so you can fit 64 CD's per m² if you order them in a grid (more if you do not) A CD is 1.2 mm think. The ceiling height in my apartment is ca 2.7m, so I could fit 14400 CD's per m². If a DVD can store 10 GByte, that is ca 144 TByte. The average rent per square meter is about $20/month (more in Copenhagen, less outside the big cities). I suspect I can not store 144TByte in the cloud for $20/month. You might argue that I do have that many DVD's. But then I do have many small corners and shelves that is not much use for anything else. And it would be even more unlikely to be able to store say 14 TByte in the cloud for $2/month.
  - jefftk 4y ago
    Thanks for doing the math; you're right! Google Archive storage is $0.0012/month (3x cheaper than Amazon Glacier, which surprised me). 144TB would be $173/month, so 9x cheaper to keep in your home. I think your estimate of how many DVDs you can put in a given space is a bit optimistic: you're assuming no protection between discs and that a floor-to-ceiling tower is stable. If instead we imagine putting them in cases that double their thickness and putting collections of them in boxes that add 10% to the total height, though, it's 4x cheaper to keep them in your apartment. But if you use Blu-ray instead of DVD it's 20x cheaper!