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Why the bible and not other religious text? Why include religion at all, which to me did more harm than good. Why not include books about how to cooperate and

Why the bible and not other religious text? Why include religion at all, which to me did more harm than good. Why not include books about how to cooperate and collaborate with other ppl and why it’s necessary for societies to survive.

bananarchist 4y ago
Religious texts contain many lessons, fables, morals and parables about collaboration and cooperation, especially in contexts of extreme poverty, low tech scarcity, etc, the likes of which one would certainly be facing under this scenario. Don't blame the tools for how people have historically used them. I do, however, agree that it makes sense to include more than just the bible, as almost every sacred text is rich in wisdom.
- uxcolumbo 4y ago
  Yes, but there is a lot garbage and harmful stuff included… it adds too much noise. Take all the good stuff from those religions texts and create a new book using plain language.
  - dozgon 4y ago
    How about ancient Greek philosophies (e.g., Aristotle, stoicism)?
    - uxcolumbo 4y ago
      Yes, I think those are important… understanding the origins of democracy and the concept of eudaimonia etc.
yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
> Why the bible and not other religious text? > Why include religion at all, which to me did more harm than good. Well, The Bible has the small advantage of being true. > Why not include books about how to cooperate and collaborate with other ppl and why it’s necessary for societies to survive. ...like The Bible? I defy you to actually follow the teachings of the NT at least and not get cooperation and collaboration for free.
- v-erne 4y ago
  >> Well, The Bible has the small advantage of being true What does it even mean its true? It's so convoluted and inprecise that most of the texts require interpretation and works only as high level metaphors. This claim is as meaningless as calling it the good book.
- uxcolumbo 4y ago
  Do you support all the barbaric teachings in it, like stoning your daughter when she lost her virginity before marriage? Is that a truth we should blindly follow? It’s better to come up with a new book which teaches ppl how to live in harmony and working together without instilling fear, guidelines based on science and using simple language. You could say the human brain and the scientific process is God’s gift… use it rather than blindly following the words of some powerhungry and controlling folks from the past.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
    > Do you support all the barbaric teachings in it, like stoning your daughter when she lost her virginity before marriage? Is that a truth we should blindly follow? John 8:7 pretty clearly obsoletes that. So yeah, I'm still happy to follow what the Bible actually says.
    - uxcolumbo 4y ago
      That was just one example of harmful content, there is plenty more. Why follow a book with contradicting messages? Why not create a new book with clear positive messages only that doesn’t confuse ppl or doesn’t encourage them to kill or oppress others.

bananarchist 4y ago

Religious texts contain many lessons, fables, morals and parables about collaboration and cooperation, especially in contexts of extreme poverty, low tech scarcity, etc, the likes of which one would certainly be facing under this scenario. Don't blame the tools for how people have historically used them. I do, however, agree that it makes sense to include more than just the bible, as almost every sacred text is rich in wisdom.

uxcolumbo 4y ago
Yes, but there is a lot garbage and harmful stuff included… it adds too much noise. Take all the good stuff from those religions texts and create a new book using plain language.
- dozgon 4y ago
  How about ancient Greek philosophies (e.g., Aristotle, stoicism)?
  - uxcolumbo 4y ago
    Yes, I think those are important… understanding the origins of democracy and the concept of eudaimonia etc.

yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago

> Why the bible and not other religious text? > Why include religion at all, which to me did more harm than good. Well, The Bible has the small advantage of being true. > Why not include books about how to cooperate and collaborate with other ppl and why it’s necessary for societies to survive. ...like The Bible? I defy you to actually follow the teachings of the NT at least and not get cooperation and collaboration for free.

v-erne 4y ago
>> Well, The Bible has the small advantage of being true What does it even mean its true? It's so convoluted and inprecise that most of the texts require interpretation and works only as high level metaphors. This claim is as meaningless as calling it the good book.
uxcolumbo 4y ago
Do you support all the barbaric teachings in it, like stoning your daughter when she lost her virginity before marriage? Is that a truth we should blindly follow? It’s better to come up with a new book which teaches ppl how to live in harmony and working together without instilling fear, guidelines based on science and using simple language. You could say the human brain and the scientific process is God’s gift… use it rather than blindly following the words of some powerhungry and controlling folks from the past.
- yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
  > Do you support all the barbaric teachings in it, like stoning your daughter when she lost her virginity before marriage? Is that a truth we should blindly follow? John 8:7 pretty clearly obsoletes that. So yeah, I'm still happy to follow what the Bible actually says.
  - uxcolumbo 4y ago
    That was just one example of harmful content, there is plenty more. Why follow a book with contradicting messages? Why not create a new book with clear positive messages only that doesn’t confuse ppl or doesn’t encourage them to kill or oppress others.