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WASM, yes. Tailscale, yes. In the browser, sure, I'll take it. But what I really want is a capability-based WASM sandbox runtime (like wasmtime or workerd fr

WASM, yes. Tailscale, yes. In the browser, sure, I'll take it. But what I really want is a capability-based WASM sandbox runtime (like wasmtime or workerd from Cloudflare) that provides an API that lists people that it can send messages to (through Tailscale.) I configure the runtime with my contacts, and say which apps can communicate with which people. And then a Dynamic DNS-like system for me to have an identity key, and look up the servers to find them. In case my contacts need to migrate to a new server. Maybe Tailscale already does this? The runtime keeps the apps updated (like Sandstorm.io).

MuffinFlavored 4y ago
why do you want this?
- VikingCoder 4y ago
  I'm supremely impressed by Sandstorm.io, but I think it was designed kind of like an old BBS. One server, letting users come to it. What I'm describing, I think could be the basis for federated services. I imagine implementing RSS feeds and RSS Aggregators on top of a system like this. And lots of other services, too. I like the idea of it being capability based and sandboxed, because then I can feel safe running a service you wrote on my machine. And I like the idea of all of the networking being in the framework, rather than being implemented in each app. Just like Sandstorm.io takes a lot of the problems of sharing out of each app. The way this article ended up with WASM + Tailscale in the browser seems like a great way for a client to talk to a server based on WASM + Tailscale, like I want. So then my phone can connect to my home PC, running these federated services. I can picture implementing Google Photos on top of that. With sharing, too.
infogulch 4y ago
Maybe it would be nice if tailscale could "peer" with other whitelisted networks that agree and share selected services/endpoints between peers. Given this plus a namespace system (DNS?) you'd be pretty close to a usable, secure, decentralized, p2p mesh network. Edit: oh it's already a thing now? https://tailscale.com/kb/1084/sharing/ https://tailscale.com/kb/1084/sharing/
modarts 4y ago
https://matrix.org/ https://matrix.org/
npmccallum 4y ago
We at the Enarx project (https://try.enarx.dev https://try.enarx.dev) plan to implement precisely such a network policy in the very near future.
- pmarreck 4y ago
  cool idea, alien-feeling name
  - lozf 4y ago
    "Enarx": Reads like "e-narks", the "e" from email (rather dated as a prefix these days, but we're all used to it), and an intentional misspelling of the plural of "nark", as in one who reports information to the authorities, a snitch, or tattle-tale.
    - pmarreck 4y ago
      that’s not helping

MuffinFlavored 4y ago

why do you want this?

VikingCoder 4y ago
I'm supremely impressed by Sandstorm.io, but I think it was designed kind of like an old BBS. One server, letting users come to it. What I'm describing, I think could be the basis for federated services. I imagine implementing RSS feeds and RSS Aggregators on top of a system like this. And lots of other services, too. I like the idea of it being capability based and sandboxed, because then I can feel safe running a service you wrote on my machine. And I like the idea of all of the networking being in the framework, rather than being implemented in each app. Just like Sandstorm.io takes a lot of the problems of sharing out of each app. The way this article ended up with WASM + Tailscale in the browser seems like a great way for a client to talk to a server based on WASM + Tailscale, like I want. So then my phone can connect to my home PC, running these federated services. I can picture implementing Google Photos on top of that. With sharing, too.

infogulch 4y ago

Maybe it would be nice if tailscale could "peer" with other whitelisted networks that agree and share selected services/endpoints between peers. Given this plus a namespace system (DNS?) you'd be pretty close to a usable, secure, decentralized, p2p mesh network. Edit: oh it's already a thing now? https://tailscale.com/kb/1084/sharing/ https://tailscale.com/kb/1084/sharing/

modarts 4y ago

https://matrix.org/ https://matrix.org/

npmccallum 4y ago

We at the Enarx project (https://try.enarx.dev https://try.enarx.dev) plan to implement precisely such a network policy in the very near future.

pmarreck 4y ago
cool idea, alien-feeling name
- lozf 4y ago
  "Enarx": Reads like "e-narks", the "e" from email (rather dated as a prefix these days, but we're all used to it), and an intentional misspelling of the plural of "nark", as in one who reports information to the authorities, a snitch, or tattle-tale.
  - pmarreck 4y ago
    that’s not helping