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Having worked in Linux for years, I'm sorry Windows is more productive for me. MS office still dominates and our company and customers work in Excel. Without s

by xupybd 4y ago

Having worked in Linux for years, I'm sorry Windows is more productive for me. MS office still dominates and our company and customers work in Excel. Without support for office Linux is harder than Windows for me. With WSL2 almost everything I can do in Linux I can now do in Windows. Don't get me wrong there are things that I hate about working in Windows. Especially Windows shared folders and mapped drives. Compared to Linux network shares it's horrible. I get random slow downs when my computer is doing something in the background and explorer becomes non responsive. I get updates that require a restart all the time. I can't customize the UI as I would like. I miss i3 WM.

29athrowaway 4y ago
Forced upgrades in the middle of something, invasive "telemetry" and aggressive ads. Plus a Frankenstein UI and Pluto, the system that makes "your" computer no longer yours. What a dream.
- xupybd 4y ago
  My work computer need not be mine for me to get my work done.
  - browningstreet 4y ago
    On the one hand, you’re right. I fight this battle in my mind all the time. When I’m happy with MacOS I’m not terribly tempted to go back to Linux and live with the quirks. But the way Microsoft abuses me every day with its constant invasions that can’t be disabled, and worse: Windows Storage Sense deleted my personal files from my computer. It’s right there in the logs. So yeah, Windows is out for me. macOS survives a while longer, certainly while my machine feels like mine. But I really do think something like FOSS operating systems have to survive for people. It’s great that the cloud is run on it, but it’s far too controlled by corporations, and more than a decade ago.
jcelerier 4y ago
Today I had to dual boot on windows and literally every operation & interaction felt five times as slow as on Linux on the same hardware. I had a ton of bugs on software that works just fine on Linux. Explorer crashed at some point and I had to add a fucking registry key to enable long paths. I'm 30 and I never had to use MS Office once in my life, LibreOffice works fine with everything I had to do with it
- xupybd 4y ago
  If I didn't have to use Office or it ran on Linux, I'd be on Linux.
  - jcelerier 4y ago
    Office 365 doesn't cut it ?
    - xupybd 4y ago
      Unfortunately no. There are a few features missing and I don't want to think how hard interop would be. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/vsto/office-primary-interop- https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/vsto/office-p... assemblies?view=vs-2022 Much of what I work on involves programs that interop with Excel. Yes there are other ways of writing and reading spreadsheets but sadly none are as reliable as using Excel interop. At least if your spreadsheet has to be compatible with Excel. It is possible someone has build an amazing library that does this but I'm not aware of it. Edit: I could have Windows on a VM but that is awkward and slow. I find I get more done without that added bit of complexity.
  - password4321 4y ago
    Apparently Office 2000 has 5-star support: https://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility?browse=&app_desc=&company=&rating=&platform=&date_start=&date_end=&name=microsoft+office&search=app#results https://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility?browse=&app_desc=&... Good luck otherwise.
patrick451 4y ago
Forced updates and reboots are deal breaker for me. There's nothing more frustrating than leaving a long running simulation up all night only to realize that windows rebooted in the middle of the night. Or you need to reboot for some other reason, you're in a hurry, but now windows needs to install 137 updates. If a job requires me to use windows, I will find another job.
mrjin 4y ago
I have been using Windows/Linux/BSD in parallel for decades. Now I'm at the verge to ditch Windows. Linux/BSD were barely usable on PCs when I started using a computer. Now to my surprise, they are, especially Linux now good enough for my day to day use, even on some old and weak hardware. In the same time, Windows peaked at Windows 7 then downhill all the way. Windows 8 was quite a surprise by changing the UI, but okay other than that. Windows 10 is the malware. When Windows 10 was first out, my computers fan started to run like crazy in the mid-night but when I checked in the morning everything looked alright. It went on for quite a few month until one day I was woke up by the fan and decided to take a look at what was the computer doing. Yep, upgrading to Windows 10, but the upgrade failed so rolled back to Windows 7 like nothing happened. So I upgraded to Win10 manually which I regret almost immediately. Since then updates just like Russian Roulette. Almost every time there would be something got broken and something broken got fixed. And I started to notice some core utilities which were rock solid like diskpart, ipconfig etc got broken. The most ridiculous time was that all 3 UIs(so called modern, win32 and cli) were broken and I spent hour and had to use a combination of 2 out of the 3 to get back online. And I also constantly got OOM BSOD on one particular version even though I have 64GB RAM installed. The only reason I still use Windows now is that there are no alternatives for some work related stuffs.
- xupybd 4y ago
  >The only reason I still use Windows now is that there are no alternatives for some work related stuffs. That's basically me as well. I tried hard to use alternatives but it didn't work out.
tpoacher 4y ago
It's ok, don't be sorry. It happens!

by xupybd 4y ago

29athrowaway 4y ago

Forced upgrades in the middle of something, invasive "telemetry" and aggressive ads. Plus a Frankenstein UI and Pluto, the system that makes "your" computer no longer yours. What a dream.

xupybd 4y ago
My work computer need not be mine for me to get my work done.
- browningstreet 4y ago
  On the one hand, you’re right. I fight this battle in my mind all the time. When I’m happy with MacOS I’m not terribly tempted to go back to Linux and live with the quirks. But the way Microsoft abuses me every day with its constant invasions that can’t be disabled, and worse: Windows Storage Sense deleted my personal files from my computer. It’s right there in the logs. So yeah, Windows is out for me. macOS survives a while longer, certainly while my machine feels like mine. But I really do think something like FOSS operating systems have to survive for people. It’s great that the cloud is run on it, but it’s far too controlled by corporations, and more than a decade ago.

jcelerier 4y ago

Today I had to dual boot on windows and literally every operation & interaction felt five times as slow as on Linux on the same hardware. I had a ton of bugs on software that works just fine on Linux. Explorer crashed at some point and I had to add a fucking registry key to enable long paths. I'm 30 and I never had to use MS Office once in my life, LibreOffice works fine with everything I had to do with it

xupybd 4y ago
If I didn't have to use Office or it ran on Linux, I'd be on Linux.
- jcelerier 4y ago
  Office 365 doesn't cut it ?
  - xupybd 4y ago
    Unfortunately no. There are a few features missing and I don't want to think how hard interop would be. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/vsto/office-primary-interop- https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/vsto/office-p... assemblies?view=vs-2022 Much of what I work on involves programs that interop with Excel. Yes there are other ways of writing and reading spreadsheets but sadly none are as reliable as using Excel interop. At least if your spreadsheet has to be compatible with Excel. It is possible someone has build an amazing library that does this but I'm not aware of it. Edit: I could have Windows on a VM but that is awkward and slow. I find I get more done without that added bit of complexity.
- password4321 4y ago
  Apparently Office 2000 has 5-star support: https://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility?browse=&app_desc=&company=&rating=&platform=&date_start=&date_end=&name=microsoft+office&search=app#results https://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility?browse=&app_desc=&... Good luck otherwise.

patrick451 4y ago

Forced updates and reboots are deal breaker for me. There's nothing more frustrating than leaving a long running simulation up all night only to realize that windows rebooted in the middle of the night. Or you need to reboot for some other reason, you're in a hurry, but now windows needs to install 137 updates. If a job requires me to use windows, I will find another job.

mrjin 4y ago

I have been using Windows/Linux/BSD in parallel for decades. Now I'm at the verge to ditch Windows. Linux/BSD were barely usable on PCs when I started using a computer. Now to my surprise, they are, especially Linux now good enough for my day to day use, even on some old and weak hardware. In the same time, Windows peaked at Windows 7 then downhill all the way. Windows 8 was quite a surprise by changing the UI, but okay other than that. Windows 10 is the malware. When Windows 10 was first out, my computers fan started to run like crazy in the mid-night but when I checked in the morning everything looked alright. It went on for quite a few month until one day I was woke up by the fan and decided to take a look at what was the computer doing. Yep, upgrading to Windows 10, but the upgrade failed so rolled back to Windows 7 like nothing happened. So I upgraded to Win10 manually which I regret almost immediately. Since then updates just like Russian Roulette. Almost every time there would be something got broken and something broken got fixed. And I started to notice some core utilities which were rock solid like diskpart, ipconfig etc got broken. The most ridiculous time was that all 3 UIs(so called modern, win32 and cli) were broken and I spent hour and had to use a combination of 2 out of the 3 to get back online. And I also constantly got OOM BSOD on one particular version even though I have 64GB RAM installed. The only reason I still use Windows now is that there are no alternatives for some work related stuffs.

xupybd 4y ago
>The only reason I still use Windows now is that there are no alternatives for some work related stuffs. That's basically me as well. I tried hard to use alternatives but it didn't work out.

tpoacher 4y ago

It's ok, don't be sorry. It happens!