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This website is terrible. Its "resources" are almost entirely just links to articles and youtube videos. The information is poorly presented and poorly written.

by least 4y ago

This website is terrible. Its "resources" are almost entirely just links to articles and youtube videos. The information is poorly presented and poorly written. Why is the front page entirely taken up by a picture of a penguin?

sylens 4y ago
I rolled my eyes when I saw the first resource linked under "Why" was a video titled "Microsoft Can Kiss My A*"
glonq 4y ago
If it was still the year 2012 then this would be a _great_ website. But yeah. Terrible.
- tetraca 4y ago
  If it was still the year N-10 then this would be a great X more or less sums up my entire desktop linux experience.
  - OJFord 4y ago
    Ever use a 'window manager', particularly tiling, rather than a full 'desktop' or 'display manager'? I've had the opposite experience, i3 and now sway have made macOS & Windows clunky and unusable nightmares to me - even talking strictly just about interface/windowing/interaction.
    - cpsns 4y ago
      I have and I’ve never been able to understand tiling WMs. After using nontiling ( I don’t know the term) window managers since Windows 95 my mind is just trained for that sort of window management, anything else feels wrong and frustrating. It’s not for a lack of trying either, I really have tried to like tiling wms.
    - tetraca 4y ago
      I've used tiling window managers before, but I don't really find them to be that big of a productivity boost. I have two monitors and I prefer to have all my windows maximized. The only splitting that I need is in my text editor. The one thing I do like is the command line - I find that to be a much better experience than power shell or cmd. But that is it. If I want to do anything creative that isn't text based it feels flatly inferior. But your mileage may vary based on what you like to do. I love it in a server, I just don't like linux on the desktop.
      - OJFord 4y ago
        I'm not one to make 'productivity' claims about tiling wms. I'm certainly more productive in one, but that's because that's what I'm used to. (Maybe a little bit because it's an innate preference too, but not even sure of that.) I just find it less frustrating and more organised looking than overlapping windows, swiping between desktops (or it being animated, or somehow slow even with animations turned off). Basically I just meant I don't think I'd like the Gnome/Xfce/whatever Linux desktop experience either - it would have all the same things that frustrate me on macOS/Windows, and I expect I would agree it's inferior to those (with their massive budgets, UX staff count and salary alone probably dwarfing the Linux OSS projects - not a criticism of them or their efforts).
        hrbf 4y ago
        I’ve tried it before: FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Linux with X and regular as well as tiling WMs. In the end I found no productive advantage to just using Rectangle [1] and LaunchBar [2] on macOS. The system mostly works and enables access to all the Unix software I need. Most of the time I just need a shell, tmux and a web browser. The ongoing fiddling around – to this day – with a substandard experience regarding battery life, WiFi performance and GPU issues as well as HiDPI especially on laptops is a dealbreaker for me. But then again, that may be a major purpose of desktop Unix, Linux especially: to enable those who see fiddling around (read: hacking) as an end in itself. After all, a dedicated car mechanic will never be truly happy driving a Toyota. [1]: https://rectangleapp.com/ https://rectangleapp.com/ [2]: https://obdev.at/products/launchbar/index.html https://obdev.at/products/launchbar/index.html
- dmix 4y ago
  Web design wasn't invented after 2012. This goes against a ton of principles (Bootstrap was 2011). It could be a 2012 mobile site without a proper desktop version though.
  - OJFord 4y ago
    The penguin's so big that the page title's cropped off the bottom on my (idk, 2020?) phone - I can't imagine it would look better on 2012 phones. Even the burger menu icon aspect ratio seems 'wrong'.
    - dmix 4y ago
      Open source family has an issue attracting good designers. That applies to web design too.
cmeacham98 4y ago
If you think that's bad, check out this link: https://www.upgradetolinux.com/linux-differences-an-introduction-to-foss-fiction-fact/ https://www.upgradetolinux.com/linux-differences-an-introduc... According to the link I clicked on to get here, this is supposed to be "linux differences". I daily drive linux and recommend it to people who I think would do well with it, but I would never link them this website.
- 1970-01-01 4y ago
  >What do you mean by “It does not get viruses”? Well, I mean, um https://www.linuxexperten.com/library/e-resources/linux-malware-ever-growing-list-2022 https://www.linuxexperten.com/library/e-resources/linux-malw...
  - Kim_Bruning 4y ago
    I know that some people say "virus" when they mean malware in general. However, a literal virus is a snippet of code that attaches itself to an executable. When the executable is run, the virus also runs. The virus then finds more executables and attaches itself to those too. Literal viruses on diverse unices were indeed fairly rare in the past (and are still not common). Traditionally on most linuxes (and bsds) you obtain trusted executables from a known good source (your distribution ) , whilst files from other sources are never run at all. This means that Linux viruses find it hard to actually spread in the wild. This particular strength doesn't mean other kinds of malware can't still be successful, of course. (Though naturally people try to harden Linux against many threats.)
    - the_jesus_villa 4y ago
      >Traditionally on most linuxes (and bsds) you obtain trusted executables from a known good source (your distribution ) , whilst files from other sources are never run at all. On the other hand, the vast majority of people installing applications by piping curl output to Bash are also on linuxes and bsds
      - 4y ago
macropin 4y ago
It's so bad it's kinda cool. Gives me Lindows Rock vibes. Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSdRTOh2jeA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSdRTOh2jeA
_emacsomancer_ 4y ago
Not something I would be likely to direct people to. The most reasonable thing I've found so far is: https://opensource.com/resources/linux https://opensource.com/resources/linux
hsn915 4y ago
It's a reflection of the linux ecosystem because it's imbued with the linux mentality. Just throw things together (that were all designed and built separately) and convince yourself it will form a coherent whole.
keyle 4y ago
No I think it's perfect. It sets the tone to what to expect in terms of user experience once it's installed.
joecot 4y ago
This looks like the sort of website my friends and I would've setup when we were running local community teams for Ubuntu and running computer expo and flea market tables trying to get people to try it. In 2005. I checked, this domain was registered May 2022.

by least 4y ago

sylens 4y ago

I rolled my eyes when I saw the first resource linked under "Why" was a video titled "Microsoft Can Kiss My A*"

glonq 4y ago

If it was still the year 2012 then this would be a _great_ website. But yeah. Terrible.

tetraca 4y ago
If it was still the year N-10 then this would be a great X more or less sums up my entire desktop linux experience.
- OJFord 4y ago
  Ever use a 'window manager', particularly tiling, rather than a full 'desktop' or 'display manager'? I've had the opposite experience, i3 and now sway have made macOS & Windows clunky and unusable nightmares to me - even talking strictly just about interface/windowing/interaction.
  - cpsns 4y ago
    I have and I’ve never been able to understand tiling WMs. After using nontiling ( I don’t know the term) window managers since Windows 95 my mind is just trained for that sort of window management, anything else feels wrong and frustrating. It’s not for a lack of trying either, I really have tried to like tiling wms.
  - tetraca 4y ago
    I've used tiling window managers before, but I don't really find them to be that big of a productivity boost. I have two monitors and I prefer to have all my windows maximized. The only splitting that I need is in my text editor. The one thing I do like is the command line - I find that to be a much better experience than power shell or cmd. But that is it. If I want to do anything creative that isn't text based it feels flatly inferior. But your mileage may vary based on what you like to do. I love it in a server, I just don't like linux on the desktop.
    - OJFord 4y ago
      I'm not one to make 'productivity' claims about tiling wms. I'm certainly more productive in one, but that's because that's what I'm used to. (Maybe a little bit because it's an innate preference too, but not even sure of that.) I just find it less frustrating and more organised looking than overlapping windows, swiping between desktops (or it being animated, or somehow slow even with animations turned off). Basically I just meant I don't think I'd like the Gnome/Xfce/whatever Linux desktop experience either - it would have all the same things that frustrate me on macOS/Windows, and I expect I would agree it's inferior to those (with their massive budgets, UX staff count and salary alone probably dwarfing the Linux OSS projects - not a criticism of them or their efforts).
      - hrbf 4y ago
        I’ve tried it before: FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Linux with X and regular as well as tiling WMs. In the end I found no productive advantage to just using Rectangle [1] and LaunchBar [2] on macOS. The system mostly works and enables access to all the Unix software I need. Most of the time I just need a shell, tmux and a web browser. The ongoing fiddling around – to this day – with a substandard experience regarding battery life, WiFi performance and GPU issues as well as HiDPI especially on laptops is a dealbreaker for me. But then again, that may be a major purpose of desktop Unix, Linux especially: to enable those who see fiddling around (read: hacking) as an end in itself. After all, a dedicated car mechanic will never be truly happy driving a Toyota. [1]: https://rectangleapp.com/ https://rectangleapp.com/ [2]: https://obdev.at/products/launchbar/index.html https://obdev.at/products/launchbar/index.html
dmix 4y ago
Web design wasn't invented after 2012. This goes against a ton of principles (Bootstrap was 2011). It could be a 2012 mobile site without a proper desktop version though.
- OJFord 4y ago
  The penguin's so big that the page title's cropped off the bottom on my (idk, 2020?) phone - I can't imagine it would look better on 2012 phones. Even the burger menu icon aspect ratio seems 'wrong'.
  - dmix 4y ago
    Open source family has an issue attracting good designers. That applies to web design too.

cmeacham98 4y ago

If you think that's bad, check out this link: https://www.upgradetolinux.com/linux-differences-an-introduction-to-foss-fiction-fact/ https://www.upgradetolinux.com/linux-differences-an-introduc... According to the link I clicked on to get here, this is supposed to be "linux differences". I daily drive linux and recommend it to people who I think would do well with it, but I would never link them this website.

1970-01-01 4y ago
>What do you mean by “It does not get viruses”? Well, I mean, um https://www.linuxexperten.com/library/e-resources/linux-malware-ever-growing-list-2022 https://www.linuxexperten.com/library/e-resources/linux-malw...
- Kim_Bruning 4y ago
  I know that some people say "virus" when they mean malware in general. However, a literal virus is a snippet of code that attaches itself to an executable. When the executable is run, the virus also runs. The virus then finds more executables and attaches itself to those too. Literal viruses on diverse unices were indeed fairly rare in the past (and are still not common). Traditionally on most linuxes (and bsds) you obtain trusted executables from a known good source (your distribution ) , whilst files from other sources are never run at all. This means that Linux viruses find it hard to actually spread in the wild. This particular strength doesn't mean other kinds of malware can't still be successful, of course. (Though naturally people try to harden Linux against many threats.)
  - the_jesus_villa 4y ago
    >Traditionally on most linuxes (and bsds) you obtain trusted executables from a known good source (your distribution ) , whilst files from other sources are never run at all. On the other hand, the vast majority of people installing applications by piping curl output to Bash are also on linuxes and bsds
    - 4y ago

macropin 4y ago

It's so bad it's kinda cool. Gives me Lindows Rock vibes. Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSdRTOh2jeA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSdRTOh2jeA

_emacsomancer_ 4y ago

Not something I would be likely to direct people to. The most reasonable thing I've found so far is: https://opensource.com/resources/linux https://opensource.com/resources/linux

hsn915 4y ago

It's a reflection of the linux ecosystem because it's imbued with the linux mentality. Just throw things together (that were all designed and built separately) and convince yourself it will form a coherent whole.

keyle 4y ago

No I think it's perfect. It sets the tone to what to expect in terms of user experience once it's installed.

joecot 4y ago

This looks like the sort of website my friends and I would've setup when we were running local community teams for Ubuntu and running computer expo and flea market tables trying to get people to try it. In 2005. I checked, this domain was registered May 2022.