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IANL: How many would this be? Considering 21 U.S.C. 844 applies to federal jurisdiction, this would be those simple possession convictions at military bases, im

IANL: How many would this be? Considering 21 U.S.C. 844 applies to federal jurisdiction, this would be those simple possession convictions at military bases, immigration/airports checkpoints, federal facilities and employees, and ? That does not sound like many people... More interestingly, I wonder how this will apply to federal contracting. IIRC, Elon smoked a join with Joe Rogan and had to submit to a year of drug tests per his contract with the federal government, visavia NASA, etc.

Rebelgecko 4y ago
It doesn't look like this deschedules marijuana, nor does it remove it as a potential dealbreaker with a security clearance
- foobarian 4y ago
  It does look like descheduling will be looked into, which would be fantastic
- Overtonwindow 4y ago
  That's a really good point. I wonder how it will impact those who were turned down for security clearances, maybe convicted of marijuana use in relation to government contracting, etc. Suddenly 6,500 people have opportunities. Wow. Let's say a person within that pool ONLY had a felony for marijuana possession. This pardon restores their voting rights.
ch4s3 4y ago
According to Business Insider[1], just 149 people. [1]https://www.businessinsider.com/bidens-marijuana-pardons-wont-free-many-currently-in-federal-prison-2022-10#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20United%20States,in%20the%20fiscal%20year%202015 https://www.businessinsider.com/bidens-marijuana-pardons-won....
- rippercushions 4y ago
  149 people in jail right now. But thousands more will have their records wiped clean.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  According to the government, 0 people in prison, but there are many with convictions on their records that the pardons will address. The burden of a conviction extends beyond incarceration. https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/06/politics/marijuana-decriminalization-white-house-joe-biden https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/06/politics/marijuana-decriminal...
  - ch4s3 4y ago
    It’s interesting that different sources have different counts. I wonder how sure they are, and how good the records are. Hopefully some people have some measure of their lives restored.
    - dragonwriter 4y ago
      > It’s interesting that different sources have different counts. 0 is the government’s current count of people who are in federal prison now solely on a federal simple possession charge. 149 is, per the source cited upthread, the number for Fiscal Year 2021 (not clear from the B.I. article if it is at some point in the fiscal year are total in prison at any point over the fiscal year), and the source indicates that’s been rapidly declining; also, Biden issued 75 commutations and 3 pardons in April this year for nonviolent drug offenses, which may be part of the reason that the number of prisoners on simple marijuana possession charges alone in federal prison now is 0.
      - ch4s3 4y ago
        That makes a lot more sense.

Rebelgecko 4y ago

It doesn't look like this deschedules marijuana, nor does it remove it as a potential dealbreaker with a security clearance

foobarian 4y ago
It does look like descheduling will be looked into, which would be fantastic
Overtonwindow 4y ago
That's a really good point. I wonder how it will impact those who were turned down for security clearances, maybe convicted of marijuana use in relation to government contracting, etc. Suddenly 6,500 people have opportunities. Wow. Let's say a person within that pool ONLY had a felony for marijuana possession. This pardon restores their voting rights.

ch4s3 4y ago

According to Business Insider[1], just 149 people. [1]https://www.businessinsider.com/bidens-marijuana-pardons-wont-free-many-currently-in-federal-prison-2022-10#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20United%20States,in%20the%20fiscal%20year%202015 https://www.businessinsider.com/bidens-marijuana-pardons-won....

rippercushions 4y ago
149 people in jail right now. But thousands more will have their records wiped clean.
dragonwriter 4y ago
According to the government, 0 people in prison, but there are many with convictions on their records that the pardons will address. The burden of a conviction extends beyond incarceration. https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/06/politics/marijuana-decriminalization-white-house-joe-biden https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/06/politics/marijuana-decriminal...
- ch4s3 4y ago
  It’s interesting that different sources have different counts. I wonder how sure they are, and how good the records are. Hopefully some people have some measure of their lives restored.
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    > It’s interesting that different sources have different counts. 0 is the government’s current count of people who are in federal prison now solely on a federal simple possession charge. 149 is, per the source cited upthread, the number for Fiscal Year 2021 (not clear from the B.I. article if it is at some point in the fiscal year are total in prison at any point over the fiscal year), and the source indicates that’s been rapidly declining; also, Biden issued 75 commutations and 3 pardons in April this year for nonviolent drug offenses, which may be part of the reason that the number of prisoners on simple marijuana possession charges alone in federal prison now is 0.
    - ch4s3 4y ago
      That makes a lot more sense.