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Not only trans; many gay children and generally gender-nonconforming minors go through this.

Minor49er 4y ago
Oh, I was asking about the opposite, where kids are identified as being trans by adults, so they are put into conversion therapy which includes dangerous things like puberty blockers and hormone treatments. Also I don't think there's such a thing as gay children since kids aren't sexually active
- NoraCodes 4y ago
  Wow, that's a lot of bullshit in one comment. - "Conversion therapy" generally means programs designed to make children straight, and I have never heard anyone use it the way you're using it - Puberty blockers are routinely used for precocious puberty in non-trans children, and are no more dangerous than any other routine medical intervention - Given how difficult it is for minors who themselves insist that they are trans to access medical care, and the fact that I can't find any credible reports of such things happening, I don't believe you when you insinuate that adults force children into transition - Being gay doesn't require sexual activity; we accept that straight minors can experience romantic feelings, and it's not at all frowned upon in American culture. Asserting that gay minors cannot also experience romantic feelings is simple homophobia. I was a bisexual child before I became a bisexual adult, and I dated people of the same sex in high school.
  - Minor49er 4y ago
    I think you meant to "here's" instead of "that's". I haven't heard of anyone using "conversion therapy" on children to make them straight (maybe for teens or adults in the 60s or something, and in fringe groups after that). But there is certainly a booming industry around giving children puberty blockers and hormone therapy Also there aren't trans children without adults who are leading them into believing that they are in the wrong body, be it through positive reinforcement, abuse, or whatever other means Your final point is pretty loaded. Children don't have romantic feelings, but they will express fondness for others by emulating things that they see adults doing. I don't think you were a "bisexual child" since you were (hopefully) not being sexually engaged as a child
    - kelseyfrog 4y ago
      It's pretty easy to become familiar with conversion therapy information if one wishes to. An estimated 350,000[1] children have received such therapy. I hope this information finds you well. 1. https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/Conversion-Therapy-Update-Jun-2019.pdf https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/Co...
      - Minor49er 4y ago
        Reading the age ranges in that post already underline the point I made earlier about this kind of thing becoming much less common in recent decades
        kelseyfrog 4y ago
        Your point was that because you weren't familiar with the information that it wasn't prevalent. Most people would admit that they didn't know that and respond with, "Thanks I didn't know that until know." At this point it's pretty clear that you're arguing in bad faith. I've read enough Satre to understand what's going on here. Thanks.
    - NoraCodes 4y ago
      Your worldview is unsupported by the scientific and sociological consensus, and facts in general, and I'm not particularly interested in arguing about it. Many of the assertions you make here are simply untrue, and it's very easy to ascertain the truth by reading relevant research; I suggest you do so.
      - Minor49er 4y ago
        I'm not interested in researching anything behind your harmful and distorted ideology
    - xboxnolifes 4y ago
      > Your final point is pretty loaded. Children don't have romantic feelings, but they will express fondness for others by emulating things that they see adults doing. I don't think you were a "bisexual child" since you were (hopefully) not being sexually engaged as a child You've completely changed the person's argument by replacing "minors" with "children". They used "child" once, but the context clearly didn't mean prepubescent.
- kelseyfrog 4y ago
  I'm not sure which highschool you attended, but I can assure you, kids are in fact sexually active. Moreover, I'm not sure if you know this, but in general, people can experience sexual attraction without being sexually active. Maybe it's different for you, in which case, just know that in this case it's probably better to switch from extrapolating from personal experience to gathering external evidence.

Oh, I was asking about the opposite, where kids are identified as being trans by adults, so they are put into conversion therapy which includes dangerous things like puberty blockers and hormone treatments. Also I don't think there's such a thing as gay children since kids aren't sexually active

NoraCodes 4y ago
Wow, that's a lot of bullshit in one comment. - "Conversion therapy" generally means programs designed to make children straight, and I have never heard anyone use it the way you're using it - Puberty blockers are routinely used for precocious puberty in non-trans children, and are no more dangerous than any other routine medical intervention - Given how difficult it is for minors who themselves insist that they are trans to access medical care, and the fact that I can't find any credible reports of such things happening, I don't believe you when you insinuate that adults force children into transition - Being gay doesn't require sexual activity; we accept that straight minors can experience romantic feelings, and it's not at all frowned upon in American culture. Asserting that gay minors cannot also experience romantic feelings is simple homophobia. I was a bisexual child before I became a bisexual adult, and I dated people of the same sex in high school.
- Minor49er 4y ago
  I think you meant to "here's" instead of "that's". I haven't heard of anyone using "conversion therapy" on children to make them straight (maybe for teens or adults in the 60s or something, and in fringe groups after that). But there is certainly a booming industry around giving children puberty blockers and hormone therapy Also there aren't trans children without adults who are leading them into believing that they are in the wrong body, be it through positive reinforcement, abuse, or whatever other means Your final point is pretty loaded. Children don't have romantic feelings, but they will express fondness for others by emulating things that they see adults doing. I don't think you were a "bisexual child" since you were (hopefully) not being sexually engaged as a child
  - kelseyfrog 4y ago
    It's pretty easy to become familiar with conversion therapy information if one wishes to. An estimated 350,000[1] children have received such therapy. I hope this information finds you well. 1. https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/Conversion-Therapy-Update-Jun-2019.pdf https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/Co...
    - Minor49er 4y ago
      Reading the age ranges in that post already underline the point I made earlier about this kind of thing becoming much less common in recent decades
      - kelseyfrog 4y ago
        Your point was that because you weren't familiar with the information that it wasn't prevalent. Most people would admit that they didn't know that and respond with, "Thanks I didn't know that until know." At this point it's pretty clear that you're arguing in bad faith. I've read enough Satre to understand what's going on here. Thanks.
  - NoraCodes 4y ago
    Your worldview is unsupported by the scientific and sociological consensus, and facts in general, and I'm not particularly interested in arguing about it. Many of the assertions you make here are simply untrue, and it's very easy to ascertain the truth by reading relevant research; I suggest you do so.
    - Minor49er 4y ago
      I'm not interested in researching anything behind your harmful and distorted ideology
  - xboxnolifes 4y ago
    > Your final point is pretty loaded. Children don't have romantic feelings, but they will express fondness for others by emulating things that they see adults doing. I don't think you were a "bisexual child" since you were (hopefully) not being sexually engaged as a child You've completely changed the person's argument by replacing "minors" with "children". They used "child" once, but the context clearly didn't mean prepubescent.
kelseyfrog 4y ago
I'm not sure which highschool you attended, but I can assure you, kids are in fact sexually active. Moreover, I'm not sure if you know this, but in general, people can experience sexual attraction without being sexually active. Maybe it's different for you, in which case, just know that in this case it's probably better to switch from extrapolating from personal experience to gathering external evidence.