Well I think you'd need to draw more of a causal link between those outcomes and the voting system. Maybe their elections really all are democratic outcomes, an

Well I think you'd need to draw more of a causal link between those outcomes and the voting system. Maybe their elections really all are democratic outcomes, and there's something completely independent of the ballot-counting process that is causing bad outcomes. If you zoom out and think about the entire voting process, it's rife with inefficiencies and bad assumptions: A ballot proposal implies that the proposal is well-described and doesn't have perverse effects. A voting day implies the voting population is ready to decide, and fully understands the proposal, and that everyone with an interest is aware of that interest and has an opportunity to vote. A counting method implies that the outcome will actually reflect the democratic will of the population.