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> you can get all this stuff done in an hour "I am not a developer, but adding multi tenancy to our product is as simple as adding a tenantid to every field in

> you can get all this stuff done in an hour "I am not a developer, but adding multi tenancy to our product is as simple as adding a tenantid to every field in our database! Should only take a day or two"

danielmarkbruce 4y ago
Not quite the same.... There isn't a state licensing requirement to be a software developer. Any person off the street can start writing software tomorrow and call themselves a developer. There are a good number of jobs where someone needs to know a lot about the law, has taken courses or read a lot about it, makes decisions on legal matters on a day to day basis, but cannot call themselves a lawyer. A couple examples include anyone who works on mergers and acquisitions or distressed debt investing. It's similar to "im not a financial advisor" or "this isn't financial advice". It can be from someone who knows an awful lot about the topic.
- nickstinemates 4y ago
  I think making assumptions about operating models, how easy something is or isn't to gather, etc. is inappropriate. In the same way a random 3rd party may make assumptions about you or your life based on these posts. They don't know you or anything about you. Unless you have some unique insight into the situation, your assessment of the simplicity of dealing with this subpoena is not useful. Obviously, SimulaVR feels differently or they wouldn't have written a blog post about it, wouldn't be in these comments, and we wouldn't be talking about it. And they'd know how onerous it is, given it affects them and they've said it is.
  - danielmarkbruce 4y ago
    It's a forum, it's basically for speculation. Short of being rude, virtually nothing is "inappropriate". Saying something is "inappropriate" just suggests one doesn't have a reasonable response to the points made. I've gone through it, from both sides. For a small company or individual, it's just not something to panic about or assume will consume an enormous amount of time. That isn't "unique" insight, lots of people go through this, the US is a litigious place. To be clear, they are not on trial.
zinekeller 4y ago
Yeah, even if you're willing to defend your competitor you will still need to screen your documents to see which needs to be sealed and which documents that are under an NDA with an unrelated party that can be excluded. An hour is definitely too short for this, even if you have 100 lawyers (because the bottleneck is you and your knowledgeable employees and your lawyers won't likely to know the breadth of third-party secrets). On the other hand, you won't be compensated (fully) after this. You may be able to recover your attorneys' fees in some cases but your transportation costs won't (it'll be only a token fee set by court).
- danielmarkbruce 4y ago
  They are a small startup. They won't have hundreds of parties which they have documents under NDA and many NDAs have carve-outs for court orders anyway. All their docs are likely in Google Drive, Box or MSFT's thing, they can literally do it in an hour. If they try to do it in an hour it might take them 2.

danielmarkbruce 4y ago

Not quite the same.... There isn't a state licensing requirement to be a software developer. Any person off the street can start writing software tomorrow and call themselves a developer. There are a good number of jobs where someone needs to know a lot about the law, has taken courses or read a lot about it, makes decisions on legal matters on a day to day basis, but cannot call themselves a lawyer. A couple examples include anyone who works on mergers and acquisitions or distressed debt investing. It's similar to "im not a financial advisor" or "this isn't financial advice". It can be from someone who knows an awful lot about the topic.

nickstinemates 4y ago
I think making assumptions about operating models, how easy something is or isn't to gather, etc. is inappropriate. In the same way a random 3rd party may make assumptions about you or your life based on these posts. They don't know you or anything about you. Unless you have some unique insight into the situation, your assessment of the simplicity of dealing with this subpoena is not useful. Obviously, SimulaVR feels differently or they wouldn't have written a blog post about it, wouldn't be in these comments, and we wouldn't be talking about it. And they'd know how onerous it is, given it affects them and they've said it is.
- danielmarkbruce 4y ago
  It's a forum, it's basically for speculation. Short of being rude, virtually nothing is "inappropriate". Saying something is "inappropriate" just suggests one doesn't have a reasonable response to the points made. I've gone through it, from both sides. For a small company or individual, it's just not something to panic about or assume will consume an enormous amount of time. That isn't "unique" insight, lots of people go through this, the US is a litigious place. To be clear, they are not on trial.

zinekeller 4y ago

Yeah, even if you're willing to defend your competitor you will still need to screen your documents to see which needs to be sealed and which documents that are under an NDA with an unrelated party that can be excluded. An hour is definitely too short for this, even if you have 100 lawyers (because the bottleneck is you and your knowledgeable employees and your lawyers won't likely to know the breadth of third-party secrets). On the other hand, you won't be compensated (fully) after this. You may be able to recover your attorneys' fees in some cases but your transportation costs won't (it'll be only a token fee set by court).

danielmarkbruce 4y ago
They are a small startup. They won't have hundreds of parties which they have documents under NDA and many NDAs have carve-outs for court orders anyway. All their docs are likely in Google Drive, Box or MSFT's thing, they can literally do it in an hour. If they try to do it in an hour it might take them 2.