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It should probably be signal boosted that when you are under a discovery documentation hold, the fact that services like Signal have auto-deletion as a feature
by shadowgovt 4y ago
It should probably be signal boosted that when you are under a discovery documentation hold, the fact that services like Signal have auto-deletion as a feature do not protect those documents from Discovery and actively work against the user's best interests.
"But your honor, I can't produce those documents because they were on a conveyor belt into a furnace" isn't a valid legal defense.
- deelowe 4y agoIt is if you don’t have access to the conveyor. Otherwise, you’d be liable for documents lost due to acts of God. He can still be in trouble if they can prove he used signal specifically to avoid disclosures during discovery.
- ceejayoz 4y agoSignal deletions aren't an act of God. Upon receipt of a preservation order, those Signal conversations should've been preserved. Give an intern the task of screenshotting them all. The same rules apply if, say, you delete email after 30 days; you have to pause that process once you've been required to retain evidence.
- SketchySeaBeast 4y agoIn this increasingly stretched metaphor he was the one that turned on the conveyor - disappearing texts is an option you have to turn on, not mandatory and not enabled by default.
- matt-attack 4y agoHow can they know or prove that he was even texting with Signal? How do they know those messages existed?
- sgerenser 4y agoSome of the other parties to the conversations saved them. Then the court was like “wait a sec Elon, Mr. Whomever has this Signal conversation with you, where’s your copy of this conversation?”
- PubliusMI 4y ago