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I'll go for "duh!" for $100, Alex. Any curation affects media exposure (algorithmic or not). By definition, curation means there's a filter, and a filter implie

by dvt 4y ago

I'll go for "duh!" for $100, Alex. Any curation affects media exposure (algorithmic or not). By definition, curation means there's a filter, and a filter implies that some things won't get through. A bit of a shame to see my tax dollars funding do-nothing studies like this one. Study also seems weirdly partisan: for example, "During the COVID-19 pandemic, informative tweets about fatality rates and preventative measures are often more important than tweets related to political events"—important to whom? I have a feeling Republicans were more interested in the latter, while Democrats were more interested in the former. "Adding tweets to user timelines is an especially opportune mechanism to mitigate the potential negative impacts of social media platforms. Added content could be curated using more traditional editorial values, in service to both journalists and Twitter users"—authors seem to be confused as to what Twitter is. It's NOT a newspaper, and it's absolutely not supposed to have the same editorial standards as a newspaper. Twitter has echo chambers by design. From a product standpoint, people happen to like them. So the algorithm reinforces this. Is this healthy? I don't know, probably not, but neither is alcohol or tobacco. Maybe all social media apps should have a "surgeon general's" warning. Which seems like a way more actionable course than making social media apps use journalistic-style editorial standards (how do you even enforce that on something like TikTok?).

throbintrash 4y ago
> a shame to see my tax dollars funding do-nothing studies like this one. I assure, they are doing a lot of stuff; but granted, it's mostly bureaucracy to get the money to pay their bills... with the little time and effort which remains they make and publish this stuff
passwordoops 4y ago
It's "duh" to HN users, not so much to the normies. So studies like this are still needed, unfortunately
ySocMedia 4y ago
Why just social media? Why not a notice before Fox and Friends, Tucker Carlson, Maddow, and John Oliver? Are they not biased curators? Why should “traditional media” get a pass? Do “journalistic style standards” defined by a minority not result in curated exposure? The language being used is so vague it could apply more broadly than just TikTok. Why do east coasters get to broadcast to west coasters? Why is someone else curating my media exposure at all, claiming my attention; ah right they’re all ad platforms. All content must as broadly acceptable as possible to expose ads as broadly as possible. Gamble on their success soaking up our attention. It’s my hope AI content ends this silly semantics game. It may cost TV influencers and TikTok influencers but they’re all repetitive shallow attention seekers anyway.
- jacooper 4y ago
  Because they are Publishers? And not platforms?
  - ySocMedia 4y ago
kragen 4y ago
> By definition, curation means there's a filter, That is not the definition of curation: > In smaller organizations, a curator may have sole responsibility for acquisitions and even for collections care. A curator makes decisions regarding what objects to select, oversees their potential and documentation, conducts research based on the collection and its history, provides proper packaging of object for transportation, and shares research with the public and community through exhibitions and publications. In very small, volunteer-based museums, such as those of local historical societies, a curator may be the only paid staff-member. > In larger institutions, the curator's primary function is that of a subject specialist, with the expectation that he or she will conduct original research on objects and guide the organization in its collecting. Such institutions can have multiple curators, each assigned to a specific collecting area (e.g., curator of ancient art, curator of prints and drawings, etc.) and often operating under the direction of a head curator. In such organizations, the physical care of the collection may be overseen by museum collections-managers or by museum conservators, with documentation and administrative matters (such as personnel, insurance, and loans) handled by a museum registrar. (from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curator) If the second type of curator starts "filtering" the museum's collection, they're likely to be fired and possibly sued or even criminally prosecuted. Of course, acquisitions and exhibit curation do involve filtering. Using the word "curation" to mean "selection" — possibly even automatic, unconscious selection, rather than selection by a subject specialist or even a conscious being of any kind — trivializes actual curation.
- lalopalota 4y ago
  > makes decisions regarding what objects to select > guide the organization in its collecting just because it's at the front of the pipeline doesn't mean it's not a filter.
  - kragen 4y ago
    Yes, that's why the comment you're replying to says, "Of course, acquisitions and exhibit curation do involve filtering."

by dvt 4y ago

throbintrash 4y ago

> a shame to see my tax dollars funding do-nothing studies like this one. I assure, they are doing a lot of stuff; but granted, it's mostly bureaucracy to get the money to pay their bills... with the little time and effort which remains they make and publish this stuff

passwordoops 4y ago

It's "duh" to HN users, not so much to the normies. So studies like this are still needed, unfortunately

ySocMedia 4y ago

Why just social media? Why not a notice before Fox and Friends, Tucker Carlson, Maddow, and John Oliver? Are they not biased curators? Why should “traditional media” get a pass? Do “journalistic style standards” defined by a minority not result in curated exposure? The language being used is so vague it could apply more broadly than just TikTok. Why do east coasters get to broadcast to west coasters? Why is someone else curating my media exposure at all, claiming my attention; ah right they’re all ad platforms. All content must as broadly acceptable as possible to expose ads as broadly as possible. Gamble on their success soaking up our attention. It’s my hope AI content ends this silly semantics game. It may cost TV influencers and TikTok influencers but they’re all repetitive shallow attention seekers anyway.

jacooper 4y ago
Because they are Publishers? And not platforms?
- ySocMedia 4y ago

kragen 4y ago

> By definition, curation means there's a filter, That is not the definition of curation: > In smaller organizations, a curator may have sole responsibility for acquisitions and even for collections care. A curator makes decisions regarding what objects to select, oversees their potential and documentation, conducts research based on the collection and its history, provides proper packaging of object for transportation, and shares research with the public and community through exhibitions and publications. In very small, volunteer-based museums, such as those of local historical societies, a curator may be the only paid staff-member. > In larger institutions, the curator's primary function is that of a subject specialist, with the expectation that he or she will conduct original research on objects and guide the organization in its collecting. Such institutions can have multiple curators, each assigned to a specific collecting area (e.g., curator of ancient art, curator of prints and drawings, etc.) and often operating under the direction of a head curator. In such organizations, the physical care of the collection may be overseen by museum collections-managers or by museum conservators, with documentation and administrative matters (such as personnel, insurance, and loans) handled by a museum registrar. (from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curator) If the second type of curator starts "filtering" the museum's collection, they're likely to be fired and possibly sued or even criminally prosecuted. Of course, acquisitions and exhibit curation do involve filtering. Using the word "curation" to mean "selection" — possibly even automatic, unconscious selection, rather than selection by a subject specialist or even a conscious being of any kind — trivializes actual curation.

lalopalota 4y ago
> makes decisions regarding what objects to select > guide the organization in its collecting just because it's at the front of the pipeline doesn't mean it's not a filter.
- kragen 4y ago
  Yes, that's why the comment you're replying to says, "Of course, acquisitions and exhibit curation do involve filtering."