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But it was Trump that got the vaccine completed in record time?

by gadders 4y ago

gsinclair 4y ago
Him personally, yep.
- gadders 4y ago
  Someone has to drive the bus.
  - blitzar 4y ago
    It was actually a truck. https://time.com/4711764/donald-trump-pretend-truck-photo-white-house/ https://time.com/4711764/donald-trump-pretend-truck-photo-wh... Dont let yourself be fooled by the lamestream media, he wasnt pretending, he really drove that truck, actually a bigger one that that. The biggest truck anyone had ever driven.
    - gadders 4y ago
      I'm not entirely sure what your point is, other than "President does photo op."
      - jfengel 4y ago
        He is mocking the former President's penchant not just for photo ops, but for clumsy hyperboles.
        gadders 4y ago
        So nothing of relevance to my main point.
        jfengel 4y ago
        Not directly, no. I suppose I'd interpret it as obliquely suggesting that he was not in fact "driving the bus", but of course that's a debatable proposition for any President and any policy.
        gadders 4y ago
        I mean I doubt very much he was making day to day decisions, but I'd imagine he was saying words to the effect of: "Hey, FDA, Pfizer, etc - I want this vaccine in x months make it work and shout if anyone gives you trouble." I'd imagine coming from any president that would carry some weight.
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pohuing 4y ago
And yet there's insane distrust amongst many republicans towards it. Its weird, trump himself is getting booed at his own ralleys when he speaks in favour of vaccination. It feels like a runaway train
krapp 4y ago
Trump only got on the pro-vaccination bandwagon because his efforts to downplay and deny the scope of the pandemic initially, so as to not distract from his pro-economy election narrative, became politically untenable. It was Trump who called it Kung Flu and refused to wear a mask in public and mocked anyone who did, and encouraged people to resist and protest lockdown rules and health guidelines, and it was Trump who turned resource distribution into a partisan grift. If you want to give Trump credit for the vaccine, you need to give him credit for sabotaging and deliberately undermining the effort as well. Trump is the reason the next pandemic is going to be far worse than it needs to be, because thanks to him, anti-vaxx conspiracy belief has been normalized and half the US has made mistrust of science and refusal to vaccinate a fundamental part of their political and cultural identity. But yes, he got the vaccine completed in record time. Kudos to him for that.

But it was Trump that got the vaccine completed in record time?

gsinclair 4y ago

Him personally, yep.

gadders 4y ago
Someone has to drive the bus.
- blitzar 4y ago
  It was actually a truck. https://time.com/4711764/donald-trump-pretend-truck-photo-white-house/ https://time.com/4711764/donald-trump-pretend-truck-photo-wh... Dont let yourself be fooled by the lamestream media, he wasnt pretending, he really drove that truck, actually a bigger one that that. The biggest truck anyone had ever driven.
  - gadders 4y ago
    I'm not entirely sure what your point is, other than "President does photo op."
    - jfengel 4y ago
      He is mocking the former President's penchant not just for photo ops, but for clumsy hyperboles.
      - gadders 4y ago
        So nothing of relevance to my main point.
        jfengel 4y ago
        Not directly, no. I suppose I'd interpret it as obliquely suggesting that he was not in fact "driving the bus", but of course that's a debatable proposition for any President and any policy.
        gadders 4y ago
        I mean I doubt very much he was making day to day decisions, but I'd imagine he was saying words to the effect of: "Hey, FDA, Pfizer, etc - I want this vaccine in x months make it work and shout if anyone gives you trouble." I'd imagine coming from any president that would carry some weight.
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pohuing 4y ago

And yet there's insane distrust amongst many republicans towards it. Its weird, trump himself is getting booed at his own ralleys when he speaks in favour of vaccination. It feels like a runaway train

krapp 4y ago

Trump only got on the pro-vaccination bandwagon because his efforts to downplay and deny the scope of the pandemic initially, so as to not distract from his pro-economy election narrative, became politically untenable. It was Trump who called it Kung Flu and refused to wear a mask in public and mocked anyone who did, and encouraged people to resist and protest lockdown rules and health guidelines, and it was Trump who turned resource distribution into a partisan grift. If you want to give Trump credit for the vaccine, you need to give him credit for sabotaging and deliberately undermining the effort as well. Trump is the reason the next pandemic is going to be far worse than it needs to be, because thanks to him, anti-vaxx conspiracy belief has been normalized and half the US has made mistrust of science and refusal to vaccinate a fundamental part of their political and cultural identity. But yes, he got the vaccine completed in record time. Kudos to him for that.