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Heart attack at just 47 years old. And not because of obesity. Maintaining his unbelieviable skill level must have been pretty stressful for him.

by badpun 4y ago

maccard 4y ago
They don't call it a widowmaker [0] for nothing. [0] https://www.menshealth.com/health/a21346168/widowmaker-heart-attack/ https://www.menshealth.com/health/a21346168/widowmaker-heart...
stoeckley 4y ago
He was certainly very busy, always traveling. This happened (from what I read) as he was leaving a show in Paris for a flight to New York.
notafraudster 4y ago
The biggest surprise to me is that he died of a heart attack in an airport, where presumably AEDs are in ready supply and people are everywhere so it'd be immediately noticed. I really thought the survival rate in such a circumstance, even for catastrophic heart attacks, was pretty good!
- CaptArmchair 4y ago
  I was recently taught in first aid class that the survival rate of an out-of-hospital heart attack is about 10-12%. Heart attacks have a ton of causes, lifestyle is just one of those. Sometimes, things go very wrong without an apparent, explainable cause. Medicine hasn't yet figured out everything that might cause a heart attack. Even with help on scene, people still die in hospital a few days later because of a mix of underlying causes. CPR on scene doubles the chances of survival, but they aren't a guarantee someone will survive. The entire point of learning CPR is to maximize the number of people that don't have to die in the event of a heart attack, no matter how minute that fraction. About 800k people suffer a heart attack in the U.S. yearly accordign to the CDC (this is both in-hospital as well as out-of-hospital).
  - Dave3of5 4y ago
    > I was recently taught in first aid class that the survival rate of an out-of-hospital heart attack is about 10-12%. In my first aid course we were taught that the speed in which an AED is applied is the main contributing factor. Giving that most workplaces/homes/restaurants ...etc don't actually have an AED you would normally get one when the ambulance arrives. Someone in the NHS had worked out the graph for distance from ambulance and % survival. He gave us all our % chance survival if our office didn't have and AED based upon the average rate from our work places and that we needed to wait for the ambulance. This was under the assumption that someone would start CPR almost straight after the arrest. In our office this % without an AED was < 10% something insane like 6% chance survival. With an AED survival is much higher. He gave the figure of 95%+ survival rate for offices that had AED in them. I brought this up in a company meeting with all staff there and the question was how much is an AED. I had already asked this and it was £750 for an older second hand one and £1100 for a brand new one. Never bought the flipping AED. So from what I made out my life was worth < £750 to the CEO.
    - blitzar 4y ago
      Insurance would probably pay them out nicely - your death at work is probably worth +1x your annual salary - maybe more.
      - Dave3of5 4y ago
        > Insurance would probably pay them out nicely I wouldn't have bet any money on that. The dude was unwilling to pay £1100 for a life saving device what makes you think he would buy insurance that would pay upon employee death. I know for a fact I didn't have any of that cover as my current company does pay death in service and it's like 4 times my yearly salary to my wife. So if he had anything like that he would have said so. He's was just a cheap fuck. Companies often cheap out of safety gear to make a quick buck happens everywhere all the time.
    - sokoloff 4y ago
      Imagine if there was a meteor shield the company could buy for £250. If they didn't buy it, is your life worth less than £250 to them? You have to divide the cost by the likelihood of a life being saved to find the proxy figure for what that's worth. If there's a 1% chance that an AED will save a life during its useful lifespan, that suggests that they're valuing the life at less than £110000 (assuming a company would be inclined to buy new and that there are no required inspections along the lifespan of the AED). I think the actual likelihood that any individual AED located in a company's workplace will save a life is much less than 1%.
- sizzle 4y ago
  Can any expert here help me understand why his heart attack was not reversible by administering tPA to dissolve blood clots?
Bloedcoin 4y ago
Or he enjoyed it tremendously and it had nothing to do with stress.
- badpun 4y ago
  You can enjoy things that are bad for you... Polish film director Zanussi said that it was always his goal to have poor health in the old age, because, if he didn't, it'd meant he hadn't push himself hard enough in the pursuit of excellence in his art.
  - Bloedcoin 4y ago
    Just because some person said this doesn't make it here suddenly true. I personally find this anecdote really shitty to be honest. Only a balanced mind and body can sustaine quality over a long time. Also bad health in old age is super critical for living long and bad. Would never thrive for this like laying in bed having pain every day being dependent
    - deepzn 4y ago
      Yeah watched Master Kim a lot. And he always has fun sketching and interacting with people as his job. This wasn't his job, just his passion. Definitely genetic factors, etc, can lead to cardiovascular disease...we don't know every thing to comment. He was getting tired, more from traveling around a lot, as I talked to some of his entourage a week before his passing, don't know how much that affected his heart health.
finikytou 4y ago
id be pretty interested to see the number of not that old male dying from heart attack since covid. not pointing the JAB (while it is one of the known side effects) but I think the big one is the confinment, forcing people to stay home, bringing a lack of exercise and mental fatigue would definitly put a toll on the heart. not even talking about the increased absorption of alcohol to fight depression from being isolated and not able to live like before.
- ideamotor 4y ago
  Yes and this news should make us all reflect on those habits and try to improve.
- deleted 4y ago
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- watwut 4y ago
  We do know that in USA, republican males are dying faster then democrat males. Also, there is no reason to imply that Kim Jung Gi had increased absorption of alcohol or was depressed last years. Especially since you are just speculating in order to push for political agenda.
  - finikytou 4y ago
    what is my political agenda? you are the one talking about republican and democrats. I am merely stating that the past two years have been bad for young (before 50's) people health and the impact of the 2years of confinment, lack of physical activity, unemployment, closing of their business, mental stress hurt a lot of those young people. now add that yes the vaccines seemed to also cause myocarditis specifically in males it is a fact not a political agenda.
- terminatornet 4y ago
  who is being forced to stay home at this point?
  - 4y ago
avgcorrection 4y ago
Completely pointless speculation.

Heart attack at just 47 years old. And not because of obesity. Maintaining his unbelieviable skill level must have been pretty stressful for him.

by badpun 4y ago

Heart attack at just 47 years old. And not because of obesity. Maintaining his unbelieviable skill level must have been pretty stressful for him.

maccard 4y ago

They don't call it a widowmaker [0] for nothing. [0] https://www.menshealth.com/health/a21346168/widowmaker-heart-attack/ https://www.menshealth.com/health/a21346168/widowmaker-heart...

stoeckley 4y ago

He was certainly very busy, always traveling. This happened (from what I read) as he was leaving a show in Paris for a flight to New York.

notafraudster 4y ago

The biggest surprise to me is that he died of a heart attack in an airport, where presumably AEDs are in ready supply and people are everywhere so it'd be immediately noticed. I really thought the survival rate in such a circumstance, even for catastrophic heart attacks, was pretty good!

CaptArmchair 4y ago
I was recently taught in first aid class that the survival rate of an out-of-hospital heart attack is about 10-12%. Heart attacks have a ton of causes, lifestyle is just one of those. Sometimes, things go very wrong without an apparent, explainable cause. Medicine hasn't yet figured out everything that might cause a heart attack. Even with help on scene, people still die in hospital a few days later because of a mix of underlying causes. CPR on scene doubles the chances of survival, but they aren't a guarantee someone will survive. The entire point of learning CPR is to maximize the number of people that don't have to die in the event of a heart attack, no matter how minute that fraction. About 800k people suffer a heart attack in the U.S. yearly accordign to the CDC (this is both in-hospital as well as out-of-hospital).
- Dave3of5 4y ago
  > I was recently taught in first aid class that the survival rate of an out-of-hospital heart attack is about 10-12%. In my first aid course we were taught that the speed in which an AED is applied is the main contributing factor. Giving that most workplaces/homes/restaurants ...etc don't actually have an AED you would normally get one when the ambulance arrives. Someone in the NHS had worked out the graph for distance from ambulance and % survival. He gave us all our % chance survival if our office didn't have and AED based upon the average rate from our work places and that we needed to wait for the ambulance. This was under the assumption that someone would start CPR almost straight after the arrest. In our office this % without an AED was < 10% something insane like 6% chance survival. With an AED survival is much higher. He gave the figure of 95%+ survival rate for offices that had AED in them. I brought this up in a company meeting with all staff there and the question was how much is an AED. I had already asked this and it was £750 for an older second hand one and £1100 for a brand new one. Never bought the flipping AED. So from what I made out my life was worth < £750 to the CEO.
  - blitzar 4y ago
    Insurance would probably pay them out nicely - your death at work is probably worth +1x your annual salary - maybe more.
    - Dave3of5 4y ago
      > Insurance would probably pay them out nicely I wouldn't have bet any money on that. The dude was unwilling to pay £1100 for a life saving device what makes you think he would buy insurance that would pay upon employee death. I know for a fact I didn't have any of that cover as my current company does pay death in service and it's like 4 times my yearly salary to my wife. So if he had anything like that he would have said so. He's was just a cheap fuck. Companies often cheap out of safety gear to make a quick buck happens everywhere all the time.
  - sokoloff 4y ago
    Imagine if there was a meteor shield the company could buy for £250. If they didn't buy it, is your life worth less than £250 to them? You have to divide the cost by the likelihood of a life being saved to find the proxy figure for what that's worth. If there's a 1% chance that an AED will save a life during its useful lifespan, that suggests that they're valuing the life at less than £110000 (assuming a company would be inclined to buy new and that there are no required inspections along the lifespan of the AED). I think the actual likelihood that any individual AED located in a company's workplace will save a life is much less than 1%.
sizzle 4y ago
Can any expert here help me understand why his heart attack was not reversible by administering tPA to dissolve blood clots?

Bloedcoin 4y ago

Or he enjoyed it tremendously and it had nothing to do with stress.

badpun 4y ago
You can enjoy things that are bad for you... Polish film director Zanussi said that it was always his goal to have poor health in the old age, because, if he didn't, it'd meant he hadn't push himself hard enough in the pursuit of excellence in his art.
- Bloedcoin 4y ago
  Just because some person said this doesn't make it here suddenly true. I personally find this anecdote really shitty to be honest. Only a balanced mind and body can sustaine quality over a long time. Also bad health in old age is super critical for living long and bad. Would never thrive for this like laying in bed having pain every day being dependent
  - deepzn 4y ago
    Yeah watched Master Kim a lot. And he always has fun sketching and interacting with people as his job. This wasn't his job, just his passion. Definitely genetic factors, etc, can lead to cardiovascular disease...we don't know every thing to comment. He was getting tired, more from traveling around a lot, as I talked to some of his entourage a week before his passing, don't know how much that affected his heart health.

finikytou 4y ago

id be pretty interested to see the number of not that old male dying from heart attack since covid. not pointing the JAB (while it is one of the known side effects) but I think the big one is the confinment, forcing people to stay home, bringing a lack of exercise and mental fatigue would definitly put a toll on the heart. not even talking about the increased absorption of alcohol to fight depression from being isolated and not able to live like before.

ideamotor 4y ago
Yes and this news should make us all reflect on those habits and try to improve.
deleted 4y ago
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watwut 4y ago
We do know that in USA, republican males are dying faster then democrat males. Also, there is no reason to imply that Kim Jung Gi had increased absorption of alcohol or was depressed last years. Especially since you are just speculating in order to push for political agenda.
- finikytou 4y ago
  what is my political agenda? you are the one talking about republican and democrats. I am merely stating that the past two years have been bad for young (before 50's) people health and the impact of the 2years of confinment, lack of physical activity, unemployment, closing of their business, mental stress hurt a lot of those young people. now add that yes the vaccines seemed to also cause myocarditis specifically in males it is a fact not a political agenda.
terminatornet 4y ago
who is being forced to stay home at this point?
- 4y ago

avgcorrection 4y ago

Completely pointless speculation.