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> Not a word about Voter ID Every serious, even-remotely-democratic country on the planet requires voter ID, yet one US party is staunchly against it. Until t

> Not a word about Voter ID Every serious, even-remotely-democratic country on the planet requires voter ID, yet one US party is staunchly against it. Until the US changes this, then its electoral process should be seen with extreme skepticism and electoral fraud should probably be considered the default.

kube-system 4y ago
Both parties have their qualms about IDs. It all depends on how they’re issued and by who. If you proposed exactly what many of those other countries have: a national voter ID, both democrats and republicans would be against it.
- water8 4y ago
  No only one party is importing Hispanics by the hundreds of thousands
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jamesvnz 4y ago
New Zealand does not require ID at the voting booth. We would generally be considered to be near the top of the list for "remotely democratic countries". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_identification_laws#New_Zealand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_identification_laws#New_... Australia doesn't require ID either.
- josefx 4y ago
  If I understand the simple Australian guide bellow correctly anyone who knows your name and home address can vote in your place. The only good thing about it is that abuse of that probably doesn't scale well. https://www.aec.gov.au/About_AEC/Publications/easy-read/files/vote-polling-place-easy-eng.pdf https://www.aec.gov.au/About_AEC/Publications/easy-read/file...
chasil 4y ago
I don't want anybody to be down voted on this thread, so I am up voting you. All voices should be heard. Pasting from another post: There are citizens in the United States that do not participate in our culture to the extent that they do not have IDs. One might think of Amish communities, but many are averse to regulation. They are citizens, and they should vote if they wish. We should find some method in the technology to continue their participation.
- agapon 4y ago
  If one wants to drive, one needs a driver license. If one wants to vote, one needs a voter ID. If one does not want to participate in culture and society, doesn't want to get any government ID, then they don't get to vote. I think that it should be that simple. But it won't be because historical and political reasons, status quo, etc.
boomboomsubban 4y ago
Unless accompanied by a national free US ID, a voter ID law is an unconstitutional poll tax. Nobody should need to pay to vote. And as another poster mentioned, a national free ID is unpopular with sections of both major parties.
- water8 4y ago
  So we can make a vaccine card for every person, but we can’t print a freaking ID? These arguments against voter ID are so pedantically stupid I just wanna slap people.
  - boomboomsubban 4y ago
    >So we can make a vaccine card for every person, but we can’t print a freaking ID? We can, there isn't the political will to do so as many people oppose a national ID. >These arguments against voter ID are so pedantically stupid I just wanna slap people. "It's unconstitutional" is pedantically stupid? How so?
  - lalaland1125 4y ago
    Vaccine cards aren't authenticated or secured in any way. They are literally just little cards with text ...

kube-system 4y ago

Both parties have their qualms about IDs. It all depends on how they’re issued and by who. If you proposed exactly what many of those other countries have: a national voter ID, both democrats and republicans would be against it.

water8 4y ago
No only one party is importing Hispanics by the hundreds of thousands

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jamesvnz 4y ago

New Zealand does not require ID at the voting booth. We would generally be considered to be near the top of the list for "remotely democratic countries". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_identification_laws#New_Zealand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_identification_laws#New_... Australia doesn't require ID either.

josefx 4y ago
If I understand the simple Australian guide bellow correctly anyone who knows your name and home address can vote in your place. The only good thing about it is that abuse of that probably doesn't scale well. https://www.aec.gov.au/About_AEC/Publications/easy-read/files/vote-polling-place-easy-eng.pdf https://www.aec.gov.au/About_AEC/Publications/easy-read/file...

chasil 4y ago

I don't want anybody to be down voted on this thread, so I am up voting you. All voices should be heard. Pasting from another post: There are citizens in the United States that do not participate in our culture to the extent that they do not have IDs. One might think of Amish communities, but many are averse to regulation. They are citizens, and they should vote if they wish. We should find some method in the technology to continue their participation.

agapon 4y ago
If one wants to drive, one needs a driver license. If one wants to vote, one needs a voter ID. If one does not want to participate in culture and society, doesn't want to get any government ID, then they don't get to vote. I think that it should be that simple. But it won't be because historical and political reasons, status quo, etc.

boomboomsubban 4y ago

Unless accompanied by a national free US ID, a voter ID law is an unconstitutional poll tax. Nobody should need to pay to vote. And as another poster mentioned, a national free ID is unpopular with sections of both major parties.

water8 4y ago
So we can make a vaccine card for every person, but we can’t print a freaking ID? These arguments against voter ID are so pedantically stupid I just wanna slap people.
- boomboomsubban 4y ago
  >So we can make a vaccine card for every person, but we can’t print a freaking ID? We can, there isn't the political will to do so as many people oppose a national ID. >These arguments against voter ID are so pedantically stupid I just wanna slap people. "It's unconstitutional" is pedantically stupid? How so?
- lalaland1125 4y ago
  Vaccine cards aren't authenticated or secured in any way. They are literally just little cards with text ...