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I suppose this will allow Debian to compete against some of its derivatives such as Ubuntu.

by meitham 4y ago

hulitu 4y ago
I thought that Debian was an Ubuntu derivative /s (at least by the number of users)
- meitham 4y ago
  I think support for non free is a major reason for people to chose Ubuntu over Debian, specially with cheaper laptops that come with non standard chipsets. Of course Ubuntu also comes with stronger marketing and people generally (sadly) prefer having a corporation behind software than a charitable organisation.
  - pabs3 4y ago
    There are numerous corporations paying contributors or employees to work on Debian, and supporting Debian in other ways, Canonical for example, or the Debian partners and Debian consultants and most of the LTS team comes from Freexian. https://www.debian.org/partners/ https://www.debian.org/partners/ https://www.debian.org/consultants/ https://www.debian.org/consultants/ https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Team https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Team https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Funding https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Funding https://wiki.debian.org/Hardware/Certification https://wiki.debian.org/Hardware/Certification https://wiki.debian.org/ExternalEntities https://wiki.debian.org/ExternalEntities https://www.debian.org/intro/help#organizations https://www.debian.org/intro/help#organizations
  - kasabali 4y ago
    This decision only affects non-free firmware blobs. Proprietary drivers like Nvidia or Broadcom still have to be installed separately. So I don't think it'll help much in that regard.
abudabi123 4y ago
Level up from Ubuntu Pro to Debian Pro Max subscription. Perhaps widely used software should have a toll-free number to call to address faulty product concerns as if food stocked in a grocery store and the consumer's concern is resolved down to the firmware's sourceware line per line with unit testing before and after snapshots given in a receipt the consumer watchdog will be able to use to resolve as a last resort should the consumer fail to make progress with the vendor.
pabs3 4y ago
That seems unlikely, since Debian won't be installing the proprietary nvidia driver by default, but Ubuntu makes that easy IIRC.

I suppose this will allow Debian to compete against some of its derivatives such as Ubuntu.

hulitu 4y ago

I thought that Debian was an Ubuntu derivative /s (at least by the number of users)

meitham 4y ago
I think support for non free is a major reason for people to chose Ubuntu over Debian, specially with cheaper laptops that come with non standard chipsets. Of course Ubuntu also comes with stronger marketing and people generally (sadly) prefer having a corporation behind software than a charitable organisation.
- pabs3 4y ago
  There are numerous corporations paying contributors or employees to work on Debian, and supporting Debian in other ways, Canonical for example, or the Debian partners and Debian consultants and most of the LTS team comes from Freexian. https://www.debian.org/partners/ https://www.debian.org/partners/ https://www.debian.org/consultants/ https://www.debian.org/consultants/ https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Team https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Team https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Funding https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Funding https://wiki.debian.org/Hardware/Certification https://wiki.debian.org/Hardware/Certification https://wiki.debian.org/ExternalEntities https://wiki.debian.org/ExternalEntities https://www.debian.org/intro/help#organizations https://www.debian.org/intro/help#organizations
- kasabali 4y ago
  This decision only affects non-free firmware blobs. Proprietary drivers like Nvidia or Broadcom still have to be installed separately. So I don't think it'll help much in that regard.

abudabi123 4y ago

Level up from Ubuntu Pro to Debian Pro Max subscription. Perhaps widely used software should have a toll-free number to call to address faulty product concerns as if food stocked in a grocery store and the consumer's concern is resolved down to the firmware's sourceware line per line with unit testing before and after snapshots given in a receipt the consumer watchdog will be able to use to resolve as a last resort should the consumer fail to make progress with the vendor.

pabs3 4y ago

That seems unlikely, since Debian won't be installing the proprietary nvidia driver by default, but Ubuntu makes that easy IIRC.