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It will be a very boring over-saturated world, where everything is possible and everything is superficial.

by idiocrat 4y ago

Sabinus 4y ago
Check out a lot of children's shows nowadays, just soulless 3D animation.
- dorkwood 4y ago
  I feel like this is going to result in a generation of adults with absolutely awful taste. Imagine if your favourite childhood show was, like, a poorly animated spiderman-driving-a-car video on YouTube.
  - Barrin92 4y ago
    every generation of adults has absolutely awful taste in general. There's a reason the longest running shows on TV are telenovelas. Or my personal favorite, the readers vs board modern library top 100 books (https://i.warosu.org/data/lit/img/0048/55/1399297062273.png https://i.warosu.org/data/lit/img/0048/55/1399297062273.png) People who grew up and want more out of culture will do what they always have done, which is look for alternative media.
  - viraptor 4y ago
    A lot of my childhood shows were poorly animated (https://g.denik.cz/35/bd/jc-rumcajs0617_denik-320-16x9@2x.jpg https://g.denik.cz/35/bd/jc-rumcajs0617_denik-320-16x9@2x.jp...) or shot in stop motion with really simple elements. (http://fototeka.fn.org.pl/public/cache3/1-F-3092-5-1291x629.jpg http://fototeka.fn.org.pl/public/cache3/1-F-3092-5-1291x629....) Everyone who watched those is doing fine. Kids shows don't need to be art pieces - they're simple stories.
  - seer-zig 4y ago
    I think it might have more to do with the actual content than the animation. A lot of today's trash on youtube that parents leave their kids watch unattended is dangerous, and seems to promote ADD. Thankfully, there are still youtube channels with shows and cartoons we grew up with, so parents can show those to their kids instead of today's trash.
- mherdeg 4y ago
  The animation in Paw Patrol is kind of awful. Compare with Wonder Pets and it's night and day.
  - socialismisok 4y ago
    Plus, at least one of those pups is a class traitor! (It's a joke.)
  - thih9 4y ago
    Thanks, I knew nothing about these shows, I just watched 5 minutes of each and it was an experience. Wonder Pets seemed relaxing and amusing to me; there was a song “you have to la-la-la-la-love yourself”. Paw Patrol seemed high dopamine action; with pets either hustling hard to do what a human told them to do, or providing comic relief.
- personalidea 4y ago
  To be fair, there was a good amount of soulless, cheap animation back in the 80s and 90s too. Human creativity is still fine and kicking, it’s just that the curator/gatekeeper were removed, so parents are left on their own to select shows for their kids. Which sucks if your parents can’t be bothered.
- V__ 4y ago
  At the same time, there are some absolute gems which I would have loved as a child. Bluey is a work of art, from the animation and stories to the unique score for each episode. The episode "Sleepytime" was the 2nd highest rated tv episode after BBs Ozymandias. Puffin Rock, Trash Truck or Sea of Love also come to mind as great tv shows. There are even still new episodes of Shawn the Sheep coming out, which are hilarious. It's just harder to find high-quality content, when it's so cheap to produce 10x more garbage.
colordrops 4y ago
You mean the entire 21st century so far?
BiteCode_dev 4y ago
Most movies already reuse a lot color tones, shots, lines, scripts and sound effects. I can't bear hearing the overused "sling" from a sword getting move one cm, or the "click" of a gun pointed in one direction. I hate the blue + yellow + actor face template for half movie posters. I get bored when I saw in the 80' the same "boy saves girl" cliche, then in 2000, "you are secretly the one, your destiny is saving the world", then now, "look they are all from a minority, how subversive!" AI is just going to industrialized copy/pasting in a industry that have created the concept way before we had GUI.
- rockemsockem 4y ago
  Based on your descriptions of those played out tropes I think you'll enjoy this "blockbuster movie trailer" template. https://youtu.be/KAOdjqyG37A https://youtu.be/KAOdjqyG37A
- zshrdlu 4y ago
  You are overlooking the fact that the same tools could be in the hands of ordinary people as well - like you. It might just be a future whose art you might enjoy.
  - dr_dshiv 4y ago
    Personal enjoyment is so cliche. Personalization will be doom. Only half joking. Arguably, the point of media is connection to the collective consciousness. But, something to be said about exploring the personal imagination.
  - berkes 4y ago
    The early web promised this too. "Everyone can be their own publisher.". We turned from notepad.exe to geocities then blogs. Now we have tiktok which is almost literally built around the premise of copying eachother. "Please like and subscribe and hit that notification bell" in each and every video about gardening, ancient history, movies or any passion. we have tweetstorms, cut-and-paste formatting on all social networks - linkedin being the most cringy IMO. The tools in the hands of ordinary people has proven to result in an infinite firehose of ordinary expression. Those ordinary people are reduced to copy-machines that reproduce what algorithms amplify.
kristopolous 4y ago
we could bring back mid-century UPA style cartoons (ex: https://youtu.be/brX5zlDoez4?t=49 https://youtu.be/brX5zlDoez4?t=49) whenever we want. Those technologies still exist. I'm not in animation but I assume there's still plenty of that content being made, it's just in its own subculture somewhere
islon 4y ago
So... like a marvel movie.
tomcatfish 4y ago
That's silly. The show's content is not going to be worse because you don't need a team of animators. Instead, think of "free easy animation" as a tool which lets writers start up an attempt solo. The "superficiality" is perfectly unrelated.
simion314 4y ago
But we might get more indie movies, illustrated novels and lot more creative stuff.

It will be a very boring over-saturated world, where everything is possible and everything is superficial.

Sabinus 4y ago

Check out a lot of children's shows nowadays, just soulless 3D animation.

dorkwood 4y ago
I feel like this is going to result in a generation of adults with absolutely awful taste. Imagine if your favourite childhood show was, like, a poorly animated spiderman-driving-a-car video on YouTube.
- Barrin92 4y ago
  every generation of adults has absolutely awful taste in general. There's a reason the longest running shows on TV are telenovelas. Or my personal favorite, the readers vs board modern library top 100 books (https://i.warosu.org/data/lit/img/0048/55/1399297062273.png https://i.warosu.org/data/lit/img/0048/55/1399297062273.png) People who grew up and want more out of culture will do what they always have done, which is look for alternative media.
- viraptor 4y ago
  A lot of my childhood shows were poorly animated (https://g.denik.cz/35/bd/jc-rumcajs0617_denik-320-16x9@2x.jpg https://g.denik.cz/35/bd/jc-rumcajs0617_denik-320-16x9@2x.jp...) or shot in stop motion with really simple elements. (http://fototeka.fn.org.pl/public/cache3/1-F-3092-5-1291x629.jpg http://fototeka.fn.org.pl/public/cache3/1-F-3092-5-1291x629....) Everyone who watched those is doing fine. Kids shows don't need to be art pieces - they're simple stories.
- seer-zig 4y ago
  I think it might have more to do with the actual content than the animation. A lot of today's trash on youtube that parents leave their kids watch unattended is dangerous, and seems to promote ADD. Thankfully, there are still youtube channels with shows and cartoons we grew up with, so parents can show those to their kids instead of today's trash.
mherdeg 4y ago
The animation in Paw Patrol is kind of awful. Compare with Wonder Pets and it's night and day.
- socialismisok 4y ago
  Plus, at least one of those pups is a class traitor! (It's a joke.)
- thih9 4y ago
  Thanks, I knew nothing about these shows, I just watched 5 minutes of each and it was an experience. Wonder Pets seemed relaxing and amusing to me; there was a song “you have to la-la-la-la-love yourself”. Paw Patrol seemed high dopamine action; with pets either hustling hard to do what a human told them to do, or providing comic relief.
personalidea 4y ago
To be fair, there was a good amount of soulless, cheap animation back in the 80s and 90s too. Human creativity is still fine and kicking, it’s just that the curator/gatekeeper were removed, so parents are left on their own to select shows for their kids. Which sucks if your parents can’t be bothered.
V__ 4y ago
At the same time, there are some absolute gems which I would have loved as a child. Bluey is a work of art, from the animation and stories to the unique score for each episode. The episode "Sleepytime" was the 2nd highest rated tv episode after BBs Ozymandias. Puffin Rock, Trash Truck or Sea of Love also come to mind as great tv shows. There are even still new episodes of Shawn the Sheep coming out, which are hilarious. It's just harder to find high-quality content, when it's so cheap to produce 10x more garbage.

colordrops 4y ago

You mean the entire 21st century so far?

BiteCode_dev 4y ago

Most movies already reuse a lot color tones, shots, lines, scripts and sound effects. I can't bear hearing the overused "sling" from a sword getting move one cm, or the "click" of a gun pointed in one direction. I hate the blue + yellow + actor face template for half movie posters. I get bored when I saw in the 80' the same "boy saves girl" cliche, then in 2000, "you are secretly the one, your destiny is saving the world", then now, "look they are all from a minority, how subversive!" AI is just going to industrialized copy/pasting in a industry that have created the concept way before we had GUI.

rockemsockem 4y ago
Based on your descriptions of those played out tropes I think you'll enjoy this "blockbuster movie trailer" template. https://youtu.be/KAOdjqyG37A https://youtu.be/KAOdjqyG37A
zshrdlu 4y ago
You are overlooking the fact that the same tools could be in the hands of ordinary people as well - like you. It might just be a future whose art you might enjoy.
- dr_dshiv 4y ago
  Personal enjoyment is so cliche. Personalization will be doom. Only half joking. Arguably, the point of media is connection to the collective consciousness. But, something to be said about exploring the personal imagination.
- berkes 4y ago
  The early web promised this too. "Everyone can be their own publisher.". We turned from notepad.exe to geocities then blogs. Now we have tiktok which is almost literally built around the premise of copying eachother. "Please like and subscribe and hit that notification bell" in each and every video about gardening, ancient history, movies or any passion. we have tweetstorms, cut-and-paste formatting on all social networks - linkedin being the most cringy IMO. The tools in the hands of ordinary people has proven to result in an infinite firehose of ordinary expression. Those ordinary people are reduced to copy-machines that reproduce what algorithms amplify.

kristopolous 4y ago

we could bring back mid-century UPA style cartoons (ex: https://youtu.be/brX5zlDoez4?t=49 https://youtu.be/brX5zlDoez4?t=49) whenever we want. Those technologies still exist. I'm not in animation but I assume there's still plenty of that content being made, it's just in its own subculture somewhere

islon 4y ago

So... like a marvel movie.

tomcatfish 4y ago

That's silly. The show's content is not going to be worse because you don't need a team of animators. Instead, think of "free easy animation" as a tool which lets writers start up an attempt solo. The "superficiality" is perfectly unrelated.

simion314 4y ago

But we might get more indie movies, illustrated novels and lot more creative stuff.