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Reality: The existence of a vulnerability in election technology is not evidence that the vulnerability has been exploited or that the results of an election ha

Reality: The existence of a vulnerability in election technology is not evidence that the vulnerability has been exploited or that the results of an election have been impacted. Technology has vulnerabilities. Identifying and mitigating vulnerabilities is an important security practice. Rumor: Vulnerabilities in election technology mean that elections have been hacked and hackers are able to change election results. I'm sorry this is comical.

chasil 4y ago
Not when a judge has such qualms that the evidence is sealed. "At a recent hearing, Totenberg sealed the report, citing a strong reluctance to draw any public scrutiny to the sensitive details in the case. Totenberg would not even allow an election integrity group to openly advocate for disclosure of the report..." This is absolutely intolerable. https://www.thedailybeast.com/judge-seals-report-on-voting-machine-vulnerability https://www.thedailybeast.com/judge-seals-report-on-voting-m...
- chasil 4y ago
  As far as google will tell me, the seal remains in place. I say burn these Dominion Voting machines, and blacklist the vendor nationwide. "But the lawsuit, now known as Curling v. Raffensperger, didn’t stop. It instead shifted to alleging that the new system was so insecure as to be unconstitutional." https://www.votebeat.org/2022/3/2/22959221/alex-halderman-dominion-report-georgia-bmd-lawsuit https://www.votebeat.org/2022/3/2/22959221/alex-halderman-do...
anonymouse008 4y ago
Finally the person has been charged that I can speak plainly about these things - elections in 2012 and 2016 had incredible amounts of fraud at the local level. These elections mean next to nothing politically for the local folks running, however, the state and national level really “appreciate” the ability of single upstarts to “get out the vote” in their party. No true preferences for government by the governed have been revealed through elections for some time. That is the travesty for the US, and will be its ultimate downfall
- chasil 4y ago
  Unfortunately, the fraud is hardly new. Nixon did not lose to Kennedy as meekly as some assert, despite some evidence of fraud in Illinois: https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/the-drama-behind-president-kennedys-1960-election-win/ https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/the-drama-behind-preside... It would have been far better for the country if Kennedy had lost (to say nothing of Kennedy himself). Let's go back further: https://guides.loc.gov/chronicling-america-1884-presidential-election https://guides.loc.gov/chronicling-america-1884-presidential... Election fraud has a long history in the United States. It must end.
- devwastaken 4y ago
  I am actually very interested in evidence of election fraud. The "there's no fraud" claims sound like hand waving. Of course there's fraud, but to what extent, and how do we know that extent?
  - chasil 4y ago
    Here is some hard evidence of how elections are defrauded in the United States. https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/commentary/add-these-voter-fraud-cases-the-growing-list https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/commentary/add-t... This is a conservative-leaning site. I would be curious if a liberal site had opposing evidence.
    - kube-system 4y ago
      These are in the news all the time. They’re almost all crazy idiots who show up to the polls and pretend to be their dead relative. Add them all up and they don’t amount to a difference in anything anyway.
      - chasil 4y ago
        All of these little differences are exploited to become a tsunami. Trump went to bed on election night assured that he had won. I was no supporter of Trump, but I regret his passing in what has come. We need accurate and transparent elections, full stop. 'The U.S. Supreme Court said in 2008 in Crawford v. Marion County Election Board, “flagrant examples of such fraud … have been documented throughout this Nation's history by respected historians and journalists … [that] demonstrate that not only is the risk of voter fraud real but that it could affect the outcome of a close election.”'

chasil 4y ago

Not when a judge has such qualms that the evidence is sealed. "At a recent hearing, Totenberg sealed the report, citing a strong reluctance to draw any public scrutiny to the sensitive details in the case. Totenberg would not even allow an election integrity group to openly advocate for disclosure of the report..." This is absolutely intolerable. https://www.thedailybeast.com/judge-seals-report-on-voting-machine-vulnerability https://www.thedailybeast.com/judge-seals-report-on-voting-m...

chasil 4y ago
As far as google will tell me, the seal remains in place. I say burn these Dominion Voting machines, and blacklist the vendor nationwide. "But the lawsuit, now known as Curling v. Raffensperger, didn’t stop. It instead shifted to alleging that the new system was so insecure as to be unconstitutional." https://www.votebeat.org/2022/3/2/22959221/alex-halderman-dominion-report-georgia-bmd-lawsuit https://www.votebeat.org/2022/3/2/22959221/alex-halderman-do...

anonymouse008 4y ago

Finally the person has been charged that I can speak plainly about these things - elections in 2012 and 2016 had incredible amounts of fraud at the local level. These elections mean next to nothing politically for the local folks running, however, the state and national level really “appreciate” the ability of single upstarts to “get out the vote” in their party. No true preferences for government by the governed have been revealed through elections for some time. That is the travesty for the US, and will be its ultimate downfall

chasil 4y ago
Unfortunately, the fraud is hardly new. Nixon did not lose to Kennedy as meekly as some assert, despite some evidence of fraud in Illinois: https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/the-drama-behind-president-kennedys-1960-election-win/ https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/the-drama-behind-preside... It would have been far better for the country if Kennedy had lost (to say nothing of Kennedy himself). Let's go back further: https://guides.loc.gov/chronicling-america-1884-presidential-election https://guides.loc.gov/chronicling-america-1884-presidential... Election fraud has a long history in the United States. It must end.
devwastaken 4y ago
I am actually very interested in evidence of election fraud. The "there's no fraud" claims sound like hand waving. Of course there's fraud, but to what extent, and how do we know that extent?
- chasil 4y ago
  Here is some hard evidence of how elections are defrauded in the United States. https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/commentary/add-these-voter-fraud-cases-the-growing-list https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/commentary/add-t... This is a conservative-leaning site. I would be curious if a liberal site had opposing evidence.
  - kube-system 4y ago
    These are in the news all the time. They’re almost all crazy idiots who show up to the polls and pretend to be their dead relative. Add them all up and they don’t amount to a difference in anything anyway.
    - chasil 4y ago
      All of these little differences are exploited to become a tsunami. Trump went to bed on election night assured that he had won. I was no supporter of Trump, but I regret his passing in what has come. We need accurate and transparent elections, full stop. 'The U.S. Supreme Court said in 2008 in Crawford v. Marion County Election Board, “flagrant examples of such fraud … have been documented throughout this Nation's history by respected historians and journalists … [that] demonstrate that not only is the risk of voter fraud real but that it could affect the outcome of a close election.”'