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For those who aren't in academia, this is every governmental science agency now. For example just 9 minutes ago (midnight ET) a funding announcement from the N

For those who aren't in academia, this is every governmental science agency now. For example just 9 minutes ago (midnight ET) a funding announcement from the NIH just hit my inbox for "a mission to serve historically underrepresented populations in biomedical research that award doctorate degrees in the health professions or the sciences related to health."

remarkEon 4y ago
Imagine if the Manhattan Project was constructed with these ridiculous requirements.
- Bakary 4y ago
  This could be a somewhat ironic example considering the likelihood that many people who could have contributed to the Manhattan Project were unable to do so due to institutional barriers relating to their ethnicity. Even some talented people who did work for the Project got life-altering roadblocks later on such as Qian Xuesen.
  - dotgov 4y ago
    The more things change, the more they stay the same. Here is an article about a scientist being stripped of his position for "lying to government officials about his contact with a Chinese government agency": https://apnews.com/article/235705c7507a46188fc26a663d96b014 https://apnews.com/article/235705c7507a46188fc26a663d96b014 Relevant quote: As part of a new science and technology “risk matrix,” which has not been made public, the Department of Energy also said it would not fund joint research or support “sensitive country foreign nationals.”
  - djanlermats2020 4y ago
    Sure, there were a bunch of genius-level physicists capable of building an atom bomb and the US Government didn't use them because it wanted to be mean to people. That's believable.
    - Bakary 4y ago
      No, the idea is that in that era an untold number of talented people were barred from contributing to the US due to discriminatory roadblocks at every level in terms of access to education and so on. Your sarcasm is hilariously misplaced because the person I cited was driven away by stubborn US officials only to become the leading light behind the Chinese nuclear program. All they had to do was leave him alone. So yes, what you are describing literally happened...

remarkEon 4y ago

Imagine if the Manhattan Project was constructed with these ridiculous requirements.

Bakary 4y ago
This could be a somewhat ironic example considering the likelihood that many people who could have contributed to the Manhattan Project were unable to do so due to institutional barriers relating to their ethnicity. Even some talented people who did work for the Project got life-altering roadblocks later on such as Qian Xuesen.
- dotgov 4y ago
  The more things change, the more they stay the same. Here is an article about a scientist being stripped of his position for "lying to government officials about his contact with a Chinese government agency": https://apnews.com/article/235705c7507a46188fc26a663d96b014 https://apnews.com/article/235705c7507a46188fc26a663d96b014 Relevant quote: As part of a new science and technology “risk matrix,” which has not been made public, the Department of Energy also said it would not fund joint research or support “sensitive country foreign nationals.”
- djanlermats2020 4y ago
  Sure, there were a bunch of genius-level physicists capable of building an atom bomb and the US Government didn't use them because it wanted to be mean to people. That's believable.
  - Bakary 4y ago
    No, the idea is that in that era an untold number of talented people were barred from contributing to the US due to discriminatory roadblocks at every level in terms of access to education and so on. Your sarcasm is hilariously misplaced because the person I cited was driven away by stubborn US officials only to become the leading light behind the Chinese nuclear program. All they had to do was leave him alone. So yes, what you are describing literally happened...