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> Google has stated they are increasingly moving Android development to a Kotlin-first ideology Wow if Google is behind it, where do I sign up? It’s definitely

> Google has stated they are increasingly moving Android development to a Kotlin-first ideology Wow if Google is behind it, where do I sign up? It’s definitely going to take off and not be abandoned. I probably could even write some games I could release on Stadia. I thought they were fully committed to Dart or was that last week?

jimbob45 4y ago
Kotlin is JetBrains, not Google. Even if Google declared bankruptcy tomorrow, it would still be under active development.
- metaltyphoon 4y ago
  And how well was Kotlin doing before it was backed by Google?
  - origin_path 4y ago
    Very well. Google deciding to back it for Android wasn't some bold, out there decision. Android developers could already use kotlin, because of its Java interop. Google was just responding to pre-existing demand that the community was already generating. That's why I don't think it makes much sense to treat kotlin in the same category as the other languages. Sure, it's a programming language, but the way JetBrains executed on it with its easy upgrade path from java and really excellent design, not to mention the toolchain, mean that it's success and trajectory cannot easily be generalized to other "weird languages".
bcrosby95 4y ago
> Wow if Google is behind it, where do I sign up? https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/download/ https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/download/
Mikeb85 4y ago
Kotlin is JetBrains only Google has blessed it... Also compiled languages have longer staying power because if you move on from the language, you can still make use of the binaries but simply never write it again. Look at all the Fortran libs that are still in use by other languages...
- scarface74 4y ago
  Yes and how popular do you think Kotlin would be without Google’s “blessing”?
  - wiseowise 4y ago
    Kotlin was recognized by Google because it was getting traction, not the other way around. Get your facts straight.

jimbob45 4y ago

Kotlin is JetBrains, not Google. Even if Google declared bankruptcy tomorrow, it would still be under active development.

metaltyphoon 4y ago
And how well was Kotlin doing before it was backed by Google?
- origin_path 4y ago
  Very well. Google deciding to back it for Android wasn't some bold, out there decision. Android developers could already use kotlin, because of its Java interop. Google was just responding to pre-existing demand that the community was already generating. That's why I don't think it makes much sense to treat kotlin in the same category as the other languages. Sure, it's a programming language, but the way JetBrains executed on it with its easy upgrade path from java and really excellent design, not to mention the toolchain, mean that it's success and trajectory cannot easily be generalized to other "weird languages".

bcrosby95 4y ago

> Wow if Google is behind it, where do I sign up? https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/download/ https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/download/

Mikeb85 4y ago

Kotlin is JetBrains only Google has blessed it... Also compiled languages have longer staying power because if you move on from the language, you can still make use of the binaries but simply never write it again. Look at all the Fortran libs that are still in use by other languages...

scarface74 4y ago
Yes and how popular do you think Kotlin would be without Google’s “blessing”?
- wiseowise 4y ago
  Kotlin was recognized by Google because it was getting traction, not the other way around. Get your facts straight.