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Jesus Christ, French hunters. If you're worried about being delegitimised in the public eye, maybe stop having your supporters say stupid things... > In 2018,

Jesus Christ, French hunters. If you're worried about being delegitimised in the public eye, maybe stop having your supporters say stupid things... > In 2018, a 24-year-old hunter killed Marc Sutton, 34, a Welsh restaurateur living in Haute-Savoie who was out on his mountain bike. The hunter was sentenced to four years in prison, with three of them suspended. Afterwards, a pro-hunt Macron-supporting MP suggested banning offroad cycling during the hunting season. I regret I have but only one face to cover with a palm at this. In NZ, mixing alcohol and a firearm is a great way to lose your firearm licence (if caught).

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gatorgetter 4y ago
Perhaps we can ban alcohol and all intoxicants broadly. Reduce deaths by overdose, driving intoxicated, bar brawls, and the like? Otherwise, who cares. It’s headline grabber of statistical non-issue importance. All in all, I’m more likely to be dead by a motorist on a bicycle commute than I am a bullet on a hunting trip, and I do both.
- EdwardDiego 4y ago
  Pretty much all intoxicants bar alcohol have been banned until very recently. Alcohol is too inherent to Western cultures, so got a pass. And where weed is legalised, it's still illegal to drive (and presumably operate firearms) while intoxicated. So, your suggestion has already happened? Alcohol affected drivers and hunters increase your chances of dying while cycling and hunting, so you thinking this is a non-issue is directly contrary to your own best interests, which is an interesting stance to take. Let me put it this way - forbidding drunk driving and drunk firearms usage reduces the risk of harm to others. So where's the downside? Aside from "sitting in a mai-mai (hide) waiting for ducks is cold and boring, so let's get pissed", in which case, get a different hobby. And "statistical non-issue" is easy to say when the excess deaths are faceless. NZ saw a significant reduction in "oh shit, I shot my mate" hunting accidents when the hunting culture changed to "save the beers for sitting around the campfire after a day in the bush", but it wasn't an overnight change.

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gatorgetter 4y ago

Perhaps we can ban alcohol and all intoxicants broadly. Reduce deaths by overdose, driving intoxicated, bar brawls, and the like? Otherwise, who cares. It’s headline grabber of statistical non-issue importance. All in all, I’m more likely to be dead by a motorist on a bicycle commute than I am a bullet on a hunting trip, and I do both.

EdwardDiego 4y ago
Pretty much all intoxicants bar alcohol have been banned until very recently. Alcohol is too inherent to Western cultures, so got a pass. And where weed is legalised, it's still illegal to drive (and presumably operate firearms) while intoxicated. So, your suggestion has already happened? Alcohol affected drivers and hunters increase your chances of dying while cycling and hunting, so you thinking this is a non-issue is directly contrary to your own best interests, which is an interesting stance to take. Let me put it this way - forbidding drunk driving and drunk firearms usage reduces the risk of harm to others. So where's the downside? Aside from "sitting in a mai-mai (hide) waiting for ducks is cold and boring, so let's get pissed", in which case, get a different hobby. And "statistical non-issue" is easy to say when the excess deaths are faceless. NZ saw a significant reduction in "oh shit, I shot my mate" hunting accidents when the hunting culture changed to "save the beers for sitting around the campfire after a day in the bush", but it wasn't an overnight change.