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Why would I want to watch AI-generated content?

by trention 4y ago

CuriouslyC 4y ago
Procedurally generated games can be quite fun, if AI content gets good enough, why wouldn't you want to watch it?
- trention 4y ago
  Because anything that an AI can produce, no matter how "intrinsically" good, becomes trivial, tedious and with zero value (both economic and general).
  - cercatrova 4y ago
    That's a weird sentiment. If you can concede that it could be "intrinsically" good, then why do you care where it came from? It reminds me of part of the book trilogy Three Body Problem, where these aliens create human culture better than humans (in the humans' own perspective, in the book) by decoding and analyzing our radio waves to then make content. It feels to me much the same here where an unknown entity creates media, and we might like it regardless of who actually made it.
  - gbear605 4y ago
    Imagine you’re watching a show, it’s really funny and you’re enjoying it. You’re streaming it, but you’d probably have paid a few dollars to rent it back in the Blockbuster days. You’re then told that the show was produced by an AI. Do you suddenly lose interest because you don’t want to watch something produced by an AI? Or is your hypothesis that an AI could never produce a show that you liked to that degree? If you mean the former, then I frankly think you’re an outlier and lots of people would have no problem with that. If you mean the latter, then I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. We’re certainly not there yet, but that doesn’t mean that it’s impossible. I’ve definitely read stories that were produced by an AI and preferred it to a lot of fiction that was written by humans!
    - trention 4y ago
      You may want to familiarize yourself with this thought experiment and think how a slightly modified version applies to AIs and their output: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experience_machine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experience_machine As to whether I am an outlier: Hundreds of thousands of people worldwide watch Magnus Carlsen. How many have watched AlphaZero play chess when it came about and how many watch it when it ceased to be a novelty?
      - CuriouslyC 4y ago
        Totally different. Watching a display of skill, where you marvel at how much better the demonstrator is than yourself obviously has no value if the demonstrator is a machine, but then it is plainly visible that the activity has little intrinsic entertainment value and entertainment value comes from the story and personal arc of the performer. This is different from a movie where nobody really cares about the personal arc of the actor, and people are completely happy to watch an animated film where there isn't even a real actor on display.
        trention 4y ago
        >where nobody really cares about the personal arc of the actor Speak for yourself. Actors do have fans, and a lot of them. Their personal lives are subjects of interest for a reason. So, no, not totally different at all.
throwaway743 4y ago
It'll eventually get to the point where it's high quality and the media you consume will be generated just for you based on your individual preferences, rather than a curated list of already made options made for widespread audiences.
- trention 4y ago
  A big part of entertainment's appeal is having an experience/frame of reference to share with other people. Personalized entertainment doesn't offer that. I am also extremely skeptical of the ability/need so serve at individual level instead of niches (as today).
  - throwaway743 4y ago
    Time will tell.

Why would I want to watch AI-generated content?

CuriouslyC 4y ago

Procedurally generated games can be quite fun, if AI content gets good enough, why wouldn't you want to watch it?

trention 4y ago
Because anything that an AI can produce, no matter how "intrinsically" good, becomes trivial, tedious and with zero value (both economic and general).
- cercatrova 4y ago
  That's a weird sentiment. If you can concede that it could be "intrinsically" good, then why do you care where it came from? It reminds me of part of the book trilogy Three Body Problem, where these aliens create human culture better than humans (in the humans' own perspective, in the book) by decoding and analyzing our radio waves to then make content. It feels to me much the same here where an unknown entity creates media, and we might like it regardless of who actually made it.
- gbear605 4y ago
  Imagine you’re watching a show, it’s really funny and you’re enjoying it. You’re streaming it, but you’d probably have paid a few dollars to rent it back in the Blockbuster days. You’re then told that the show was produced by an AI. Do you suddenly lose interest because you don’t want to watch something produced by an AI? Or is your hypothesis that an AI could never produce a show that you liked to that degree? If you mean the former, then I frankly think you’re an outlier and lots of people would have no problem with that. If you mean the latter, then I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. We’re certainly not there yet, but that doesn’t mean that it’s impossible. I’ve definitely read stories that were produced by an AI and preferred it to a lot of fiction that was written by humans!
  - trention 4y ago
    You may want to familiarize yourself with this thought experiment and think how a slightly modified version applies to AIs and their output: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experience_machine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experience_machine As to whether I am an outlier: Hundreds of thousands of people worldwide watch Magnus Carlsen. How many have watched AlphaZero play chess when it came about and how many watch it when it ceased to be a novelty?
    - CuriouslyC 4y ago
      Totally different. Watching a display of skill, where you marvel at how much better the demonstrator is than yourself obviously has no value if the demonstrator is a machine, but then it is plainly visible that the activity has little intrinsic entertainment value and entertainment value comes from the story and personal arc of the performer. This is different from a movie where nobody really cares about the personal arc of the actor, and people are completely happy to watch an animated film where there isn't even a real actor on display.
      - trention 4y ago
        >where nobody really cares about the personal arc of the actor Speak for yourself. Actors do have fans, and a lot of them. Their personal lives are subjects of interest for a reason. So, no, not totally different at all.

throwaway743 4y ago

It'll eventually get to the point where it's high quality and the media you consume will be generated just for you based on your individual preferences, rather than a curated list of already made options made for widespread audiences.

trention 4y ago
A big part of entertainment's appeal is having an experience/frame of reference to share with other people. Personalized entertainment doesn't offer that. I am also extremely skeptical of the ability/need so serve at individual level instead of niches (as today).
- throwaway743 4y ago
  Time will tell.