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> His only other big thing besides getting lucky with Facebook itself is the metaverse To take something like Facebook from very successful college site into t

by zaat 4y ago

> His only other big thing besides getting lucky with Facebook itself is the metaverse To take something like Facebook from very successful college site into the behemoth it is now with luck alone one needs a particularly shining star.

cloutchaser 4y ago
Yeah this is a very silly and ignorant argument, especially when so many other smart people say Zuckerberg is insanely ambitious and smart. If building a $1trn company would be this easy everyone would be doing it.
- Traubenfuchs 4y ago
  > If building a $1trn company would be this easy everyone would be doing it. He didn't build 1 trillion dollar company -his team did. He was just there at the right time and did the right thing when he developed the initial version of Facebook, something any somewhat competent full stack developer can do -and I am explicitly talking about the initial version, not the planet scale real time super systems his team later came up with. I'd argue if any of us were sent back in time just one year before he started working on Facebook, we could easily be the Facebook founder of that timeline.
  - zaat 4y ago
    Others did try, before and after he did. Are you arguing that all that was needed to get Facebook to where it is now is owning Facebook at the time and having the access to engineering team? There is the whole problem of hiring them, managing their manager,and in addition to the tech, there's the whole domain of the business. Mark is famous for keeping decision privileges to himself and for being central managed who's very involved in the business. Are you arguing that the successful results of his decisions are arbitrary? That doesn't make sense - like I said, others tried before him, even got some traction but lost the game. Others tried afterwards, Google for example, and lost. He survived snap. He incorporated Insta and Whatsapp. Do you really think that any average fool with the ship and the money could get some smart guys to sail the seas for him?
  - cloutchaser 4y ago
    I see comments like this all the time on HN. It's a bit pointless replying, because your views are so black and white, but you really have no idea how much value there is in taking risk, leading a team, and executing well. These are gifts given to very few people on the planet. That's WHY there are so few 1trn companies. The ultimate question is: There are hundreds of thousands of good dev teams, why don't they all build $1trn companies.
  - samlambert 4y ago
    You are conflating building a company and building a web app.

by zaat 4y ago

cloutchaser 4y ago

Yeah this is a very silly and ignorant argument, especially when so many other smart people say Zuckerberg is insanely ambitious and smart. If building a $1trn company would be this easy everyone would be doing it.

Traubenfuchs 4y ago
> If building a $1trn company would be this easy everyone would be doing it. He didn't build 1 trillion dollar company -his team did. He was just there at the right time and did the right thing when he developed the initial version of Facebook, something any somewhat competent full stack developer can do -and I am explicitly talking about the initial version, not the planet scale real time super systems his team later came up with. I'd argue if any of us were sent back in time just one year before he started working on Facebook, we could easily be the Facebook founder of that timeline.
- zaat 4y ago
  Others did try, before and after he did. Are you arguing that all that was needed to get Facebook to where it is now is owning Facebook at the time and having the access to engineering team? There is the whole problem of hiring them, managing their manager,and in addition to the tech, there's the whole domain of the business. Mark is famous for keeping decision privileges to himself and for being central managed who's very involved in the business. Are you arguing that the successful results of his decisions are arbitrary? That doesn't make sense - like I said, others tried before him, even got some traction but lost the game. Others tried afterwards, Google for example, and lost. He survived snap. He incorporated Insta and Whatsapp. Do you really think that any average fool with the ship and the money could get some smart guys to sail the seas for him?
- cloutchaser 4y ago
  I see comments like this all the time on HN. It's a bit pointless replying, because your views are so black and white, but you really have no idea how much value there is in taking risk, leading a team, and executing well. These are gifts given to very few people on the planet. That's WHY there are so few 1trn companies. The ultimate question is: There are hundreds of thousands of good dev teams, why don't they all build $1trn companies.
- samlambert 4y ago
  You are conflating building a company and building a web app.