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This statement makes no sense. Ending the drug war will not automatically end the existence of cartels.

by Jabrov 4y ago

stickfigure 4y ago
It just takes away 90% of their revenue, which is effective enough.
- uup 4y ago
  The issue is that the cartels are now endemic to the region. They're part of the government, they're extorting legal businesses, they're laundering the money and investing into legitimate businesses. You can't just undo their influence.
  - stickfigure 4y ago
    You can still take away 90% of their revenue. There is no credible solution that does not begin with that step.
    - uup 4y ago
      How does ending the drug war take away 90% of their revenue. If you legalize drugs, the cartels would become legitimate producers and corner the market through fear and intimidation.
      - stickfigure 4y ago
        #1 The price will drop to the floor. #2 Most drugs can just as easily be produced domestically by pharmaceutical companies. #3 Of the drugs that can't be produced domestically, the Mexican cartels are just middlemen that can be cut out entirely. There's no reason drugs from Colombia need to transit Mexico. #4 If you're worried about Colombian cartels - see points #1 and #2. We already went through this with alcohol and organized crime.
soulofmischief 4y ago
So.... you're saying we shouldn't end the drug war? Because without a doubt that would have a massive impact on cartels.
- concordDance 4y ago
  > So.... you're saying we shouldn't end the drug war? You might want to reread his post or take reading comprehension lessons.
  - soulofmischief 4y ago
    No, I comprehend just fine. Parent poster is making a completely unnecessary comment in order to play devil's advocate, when we all know universally that ending the drug war is an important step in the conflict against an organized crime unit which came to prominence because of said drug war.
    - Jabrov 4y ago
      I think you are actually not comprehending. I never said we shouldn’t end the drug war.
      - soulofmischief 4y ago
        The original statement was derisive without actually offering any useful criticism, and I called it out by taking it to its logical conclusion. If you want more thoughtful replies, it starts with your own comment.
didibus 4y ago
I think logically the path for these is to become legal business entities no?
CamperBob2 4y ago
It worked with alcohol, why not with other drugs? You don't see a lot of illegal speakeasies and moonshine stills around, do you?

This statement makes no sense. Ending the drug war will not automatically end the existence of cartels.

by Jabrov 4y ago

This statement makes no sense. Ending the drug war will not automatically end the existence of cartels.

stickfigure 4y ago

It just takes away 90% of their revenue, which is effective enough.

uup 4y ago
The issue is that the cartels are now endemic to the region. They're part of the government, they're extorting legal businesses, they're laundering the money and investing into legitimate businesses. You can't just undo their influence.
- stickfigure 4y ago
  You can still take away 90% of their revenue. There is no credible solution that does not begin with that step.
  - uup 4y ago
    How does ending the drug war take away 90% of their revenue. If you legalize drugs, the cartels would become legitimate producers and corner the market through fear and intimidation.
    - stickfigure 4y ago
      #1 The price will drop to the floor. #2 Most drugs can just as easily be produced domestically by pharmaceutical companies. #3 Of the drugs that can't be produced domestically, the Mexican cartels are just middlemen that can be cut out entirely. There's no reason drugs from Colombia need to transit Mexico. #4 If you're worried about Colombian cartels - see points #1 and #2. We already went through this with alcohol and organized crime.

soulofmischief 4y ago

So.... you're saying we shouldn't end the drug war? Because without a doubt that would have a massive impact on cartels.

concordDance 4y ago
> So.... you're saying we shouldn't end the drug war? You might want to reread his post or take reading comprehension lessons.
- soulofmischief 4y ago
  No, I comprehend just fine. Parent poster is making a completely unnecessary comment in order to play devil's advocate, when we all know universally that ending the drug war is an important step in the conflict against an organized crime unit which came to prominence because of said drug war.
  - Jabrov 4y ago
    I think you are actually not comprehending. I never said we shouldn’t end the drug war.
    - soulofmischief 4y ago
      The original statement was derisive without actually offering any useful criticism, and I called it out by taking it to its logical conclusion. If you want more thoughtful replies, it starts with your own comment.

didibus 4y ago

I think logically the path for these is to become legal business entities no?

CamperBob2 4y ago

It worked with alcohol, why not with other drugs? You don't see a lot of illegal speakeasies and moonshine stills around, do you?