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I rather be dependent on a democracy than a totalitarian state so a great first move. Now move some production to Europe and the us and we are talking.

yrgulation 4y ago
Just the other day indians were blaming their pollution on the west because we moved manufacturing to that country and china. I fail to understand why we would want to continue outsourcing to india all things considered.
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- shmde 4y ago
  > Just the other day indians were blaming their pollution on the west because we moved manufacturing to that country and china Well isn't it true ? You act like people are lying when they say the west pays countries to take off their garbage and dump it in their own nation. With all the things that USA imports from other countries as manufacturing it inside the US will decrease their profits. Classic Murica, offshore all the dirty work to the east, blame India and China for rising pollution when the final product is ironically coming back to USA and pat itself on the back for cutting down carbon emissions.
  - pb7 4y ago
    If you pay someone to dispose of waste and they just dump it in the ocean and pocket the money, what do you call that? They can just refuse to accept the deal or charge enough for it to be feasible to dispose of it sustainably.
    - alehlopeh 4y ago
      That’s what we call recycling.
kranke155 4y ago
It’s hard to see how much Índia will remain a democracy and it does have its problems. But certainly it seems far less of a revisionist power than China.
- shmde 4y ago
  Treading on slippery slope are we. You talk about democracy but the USA itself is a two party democracy not a true democracy at heart. In India you can start your own political party and contest in elections. Since it got independence from the Britishers, India has stayed a democracy and will hopefully remain so. (Unless maybe CIA organises a coup d'état)
  - cronix 4y ago
    If you elect representatives to vote on your behalf, it's not a "true democracy."
    - KrishnaShripad 4y ago
      When you vote directly, you risk voting for an authoritarian whom you can never recall in case he doesn't work in your interest or turns into a Dictator. In a representative democracy, the representatives are more approachable to the Citizens. This allows one to hold the representative accountable in case the Leader turns autocratic/dictatorial. Citizens can build pressure on Representatives from their own area rather than trying to galvanize a nation-wide agitation against a Dictator. And with a billion+ people voting, there is no way to reasonably expect to hold a single Leader accountable. Direct Democracy doesn't work if the population is too big. Anything greater than a few thousand people you will need Representative Democracy. So when one says "True Democracy" it invariably points to Representative Democracy with a Multi-Party system. Direct Democracy is a dead idea from the get go.
    - vivegi 4y ago
      India is a democratic republic. Says so in the preamble of our constitution. It is a parliamentary democracy. We directly vote for the representatives in our local municipalities/corporations, state legislatures and central (federal) legislature.

yrgulation 4y ago

Just the other day indians were blaming their pollution on the west because we moved manufacturing to that country and china. I fail to understand why we would want to continue outsourcing to india all things considered.

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shmde 4y ago
> Just the other day indians were blaming their pollution on the west because we moved manufacturing to that country and china Well isn't it true ? You act like people are lying when they say the west pays countries to take off their garbage and dump it in their own nation. With all the things that USA imports from other countries as manufacturing it inside the US will decrease their profits. Classic Murica, offshore all the dirty work to the east, blame India and China for rising pollution when the final product is ironically coming back to USA and pat itself on the back for cutting down carbon emissions.
- pb7 4y ago
  If you pay someone to dispose of waste and they just dump it in the ocean and pocket the money, what do you call that? They can just refuse to accept the deal or charge enough for it to be feasible to dispose of it sustainably.
  - alehlopeh 4y ago
    That’s what we call recycling.

kranke155 4y ago

It’s hard to see how much Índia will remain a democracy and it does have its problems. But certainly it seems far less of a revisionist power than China.

shmde 4y ago
Treading on slippery slope are we. You talk about democracy but the USA itself is a two party democracy not a true democracy at heart. In India you can start your own political party and contest in elections. Since it got independence from the Britishers, India has stayed a democracy and will hopefully remain so. (Unless maybe CIA organises a coup d'état)
- cronix 4y ago
  If you elect representatives to vote on your behalf, it's not a "true democracy."
  - KrishnaShripad 4y ago
    When you vote directly, you risk voting for an authoritarian whom you can never recall in case he doesn't work in your interest or turns into a Dictator. In a representative democracy, the representatives are more approachable to the Citizens. This allows one to hold the representative accountable in case the Leader turns autocratic/dictatorial. Citizens can build pressure on Representatives from their own area rather than trying to galvanize a nation-wide agitation against a Dictator. And with a billion+ people voting, there is no way to reasonably expect to hold a single Leader accountable. Direct Democracy doesn't work if the population is too big. Anything greater than a few thousand people you will need Representative Democracy. So when one says "True Democracy" it invariably points to Representative Democracy with a Multi-Party system. Direct Democracy is a dead idea from the get go.
  - vivegi 4y ago
    India is a democratic republic. Says so in the preamble of our constitution. It is a parliamentary democracy. We directly vote for the representatives in our local municipalities/corporations, state legislatures and central (federal) legislature.