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>This headline strikes me as dishonest and political to the extreme. The headline is quite literally without bias. It is 100% unbiased and completely factual.

by yucky 4y ago

>This headline strikes me as dishonest and political to the extreme. The headline is quite literally without bias. It is 100% unbiased and completely factual. The article may try to make (or not make) a big deal of what means but by definition you couldn't write a less biased headline.

soupfordummies 4y ago
Sure, the sentence itself, "National debt surpasses $31T" is totally factual and without value. The act of it being a headline at ALL is where I think the OP is saying that it's dishonest/political. Choosing WHAT to report/highlight/headline can be just as much of a statement than the actual story itself. I've noticed this is especially pronounced with Fox News compared to the other 10 or so news sites I look at near-daily. An example of the point I'm trying to articulate is if I said to a friend "Hey, I lost my job today" they'd probably feel bad and buy me a beer but what if the real story was "I won the lottery and then I quit my job today" My first statement was factually correct but it wasn't the full story and it would connotate a much different meaning to the full scope of the day's events.
- throwoutway 4y ago
  I also disagree (with you). I’ve been keenly interested in the national debt and I found this headline fine. There was nothing political about it You probably hate Fox News so go yell at the NYT as well.. it says “ U.S. National Debt Tops $31 Trillion for First Time” which you should probably argue is more political than Fox News https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/04/business/national-debt.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/04/business/national-debt.ht...
- yucky 4y ago
  Well yes, FOX/CNN/MSNBC etc. are all trash sources but that's not the claim that was made. And yes $31T in national debt is significant. It's not the only piece of information, but you can never put it all in a headline or you wouldn't need an article.

by yucky 4y ago

soupfordummies 4y ago

Sure, the sentence itself, "National debt surpasses $31T" is totally factual and without value. The act of it being a headline at ALL is where I think the OP is saying that it's dishonest/political. Choosing WHAT to report/highlight/headline can be just as much of a statement than the actual story itself. I've noticed this is especially pronounced with Fox News compared to the other 10 or so news sites I look at near-daily. An example of the point I'm trying to articulate is if I said to a friend "Hey, I lost my job today" they'd probably feel bad and buy me a beer but what if the real story was "I won the lottery and then I quit my job today" My first statement was factually correct but it wasn't the full story and it would connotate a much different meaning to the full scope of the day's events.

throwoutway 4y ago
I also disagree (with you). I’ve been keenly interested in the national debt and I found this headline fine. There was nothing political about it You probably hate Fox News so go yell at the NYT as well.. it says “ U.S. National Debt Tops $31 Trillion for First Time” which you should probably argue is more political than Fox News https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/04/business/national-debt.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/04/business/national-debt.ht...
yucky 4y ago
Well yes, FOX/CNN/MSNBC etc. are all trash sources but that's not the claim that was made. And yes $31T in national debt is significant. It's not the only piece of information, but you can never put it all in a headline or you wouldn't need an article.