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I am a Chinese programmer and I have to say, we cannot jump the conclusions that nodejs.org is blocked in China at this period. Only quite few persons cannot op

by mengxy 15y ago

I am a Chinese programmer and I have to say, we cannot jump the conclusions that nodejs.org is blocked in China at this period. Only quite few persons cannot open the site. We shouldn't be that sensitive and lead the topic even more political. GFW is really INSANE, but this is not the right place to fuck it.

billpatrianakos 15y ago
I'm very sorry but some of what you said was lost on me as there was a little bit of broken English in there. If I understand correctly, are you trying to say that nodejs.org isn't being locked and that only a few people are having this issue? And are you also trying to say that we shouldn't be jumping to conclusions and this isn't a political issue and that while the GFW is ridiculous this isn't the place for a political discussion? I'm just trying to understand because I honestly didn't completely understand your comment. I disagree and think this is a perfect time to talk about the politics of it even if this is a false alarm and an isolated issue. Does the GWF really help China politically? Don't the Chinese citizens know that information is being kept from them. I think just knowing that your government is keeping information from you is enough to make a person dislike and distrust their government. At the same time I wonder if I'd feel the same if I grew up with censorship. It's one thing to have freedom then have someone take it away and it's another to not even know what you're missing out on. If the Chinese people don't know that there's a whole wealth of information they cannot access then they probably don't care. But if they once had full access and now it's gone I'd imagine they would be very angry about it.
- be5invis 15y ago
  An interesting fact is that the way most Chinese people knows that they are information-managed is from "inside". "Lords" of Weibo (a soceity site) have controlled almost ALL WEIBO USERS. And they don't like the gov though most of them are beneficiaries of the gov, or the "system" they called. Nodejs.org is NOT blocked on both China Telecom and China Unicom's 3G network. I've tested.
be5invis 15y ago
A BETTER VERSION: I am a Chinese programmer and I have to say, we cannot determine whether nodejs.org is blocked in China at this period. Only quite few persons cannot access this site. We shouldn't be that sensitive and lead the topic even more political.
sandal 15y ago
I am from the US, currently visiting China. I've confirmed that I'm able to access nodejs.org without my VPN. However, it's been my experience here that the system is aggressive about false-positives in general and will result in intermittent access to various websites for seemingly arbitrary reasons. I'm not sure whether this happens at a regional level or across the entire country, but right now it's loading fine in Wuhan :)

by mengxy 15y ago

billpatrianakos 15y ago

I'm very sorry but some of what you said was lost on me as there was a little bit of broken English in there. If I understand correctly, are you trying to say that nodejs.org isn't being locked and that only a few people are having this issue? And are you also trying to say that we shouldn't be jumping to conclusions and this isn't a political issue and that while the GFW is ridiculous this isn't the place for a political discussion? I'm just trying to understand because I honestly didn't completely understand your comment. I disagree and think this is a perfect time to talk about the politics of it even if this is a false alarm and an isolated issue. Does the GWF really help China politically? Don't the Chinese citizens know that information is being kept from them. I think just knowing that your government is keeping information from you is enough to make a person dislike and distrust their government. At the same time I wonder if I'd feel the same if I grew up with censorship. It's one thing to have freedom then have someone take it away and it's another to not even know what you're missing out on. If the Chinese people don't know that there's a whole wealth of information they cannot access then they probably don't care. But if they once had full access and now it's gone I'd imagine they would be very angry about it.

be5invis 15y ago
An interesting fact is that the way most Chinese people knows that they are information-managed is from "inside". "Lords" of Weibo (a soceity site) have controlled almost ALL WEIBO USERS. And they don't like the gov though most of them are beneficiaries of the gov, or the "system" they called. Nodejs.org is NOT blocked on both China Telecom and China Unicom's 3G network. I've tested.

be5invis 15y ago

A BETTER VERSION: I am a Chinese programmer and I have to say, we cannot determine whether nodejs.org is blocked in China at this period. Only quite few persons cannot access this site. We shouldn't be that sensitive and lead the topic even more political.

sandal 15y ago

I am from the US, currently visiting China. I've confirmed that I'm able to access nodejs.org without my VPN. However, it's been my experience here that the system is aggressive about false-positives in general and will result in intermittent access to various websites for seemingly arbitrary reasons. I'm not sure whether this happens at a regional level or across the entire country, but right now it's loading fine in Wuhan :)