> side note: there are no crappy teams, only crappy managers I disagree. There are, in fact, crappy teams. You might argue that it's a crappy manager that ei

> side note: there are no crappy teams, only crappy managers I disagree. There are, in fact, crappy teams. You might argue that it's a crappy manager that either allows that team to continue in its current form, or simply doesn't recognize that the team is crappy, and does nothing, but... there are crappy teams. There are combinations of personalities and skills that are simply not suited to solving the problem at hand, and nothing short of removing actual people and replacing them with different people will 'fix' anything. Again, you can say that's down to management, but it feels like a word game. The team itself is 'crappy' for the goals at hand - management/owners (crappy or not) need to recognize and fix that.