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Not sure why this is getting downvoted. Stack ranking is the laziest and, other than perhaps random sampling, the most idiotic way to "cull" a class. The only r
by dvt 4y ago
Not sure why this is getting downvoted. Stack ranking is the laziest and, other than perhaps random sampling, the most idiotic way to "cull" a class. The only reason people are okay with it is the cycle of abuse: "I had to suffer through this, so, by golly, the next generation will have to as well!" You also see this in software engineering hiring processes ("well, if I had to whiteboard memoization, so will the new kids!").
The counter-example is trivial: suppose you have ten "Einsteins" in your class, but due to your dumb-ass stack ranked curve, you "cut" 4 of them. Congratulations, you just set back human progress 300 years.
For the record, UCLA was equally-idiotic when it came to grading. Technically, getting an A+ (4.3) was possible, but they were virtually NEVER given out. Why? Who the fuck knows -- I asked multiple times what I could have done better. I only ever got a handful of A+'es (and basically had straight A's).
As an aside, I wish I could nuke the entire educational system. It's corrupted by lazy and complacent professors (that clearly suck at their job: see the reproducibility crisis, p-hacking, etc.), a veritable swamp of administrators (syphoning six-figure salaries across the board), and bloated sports budgets. All while issuing unforgivable loans to record-high numbers of students.
- zen_1 4y agoI'm not a chemist, but I'd imagine the ten Einsteins would all be able to pass undergrad orgo without too much pain (assuming they were interested in chemistry).
- dagw 4y agoIf the bottom 3rd always fail, then they literally cannot all pass, even if they all score 97+% on the test. Someone will always be the 'worst' performer.
- Turing_Machine 4y ago> The counter-example is trivial: suppose you have ten "Einsteins" in your class, but due to your dumb-ass stack ranked curve, you "cut" 4 of them. Knowing from experience that 33% will fail is not the same thing as explicitly planning for 33% to fail. We don't have enough information to call this "stack ranking", IMO. One of the calculus professors at my undergrad institution was reportedly asked on the first day of Calc I class whether there would be a grading curve. He asked how many of the students were planning to be engineers. Roughly 3/4 of the hands went up. Then he said "I drive on bridges and fly in airplanes all the time. There will be no curve."