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Electric car is not zero emission. And never will be, unless it's made from renewable materials and battery is charged with sun.

codeulike 4y ago
A zero-emission vehicle, or ZEV, is a vehicle that does not emit exhaust gas or other pollutants from the onboard source of power. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-emissions_vehicle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-emissions_vehicle
- Gordonjcp 4y ago
  So a very long way from "zero emission" then, depending on where its power comes from. I guess if you stretch the definition rules sufficiently my 25-year-old 4.6 litre V8 4x4 is a "Negative-Emission Vehicle" because it actively reduces the amount of toxic pollution in the air, when you take it down some of the more polluted roads. Drive it in a bus lane and the exhaust gases are cleaner than the air it's sucking in - it's warm carbon dioxide and water vapour, with all the HC, CO and particulates stripped out.
  - pwinnski 4y ago
    You can imagine a worst-case scenario for the electricity used to charge the cars, or you can imagine a best-case scenario. The car itself is zero-emission by the definition posted. You are hypothesizing that the electricity used to charge the car comes from a dirty source, but that has nothing to do with the car itself, and in Texas for example, it's easily to choose a "100% renewable" energy provider. I just checked PowerToChoose[0] and found 26 "100% Renewable" plans available from companies like CleanSky[1]. 0. https://powertochoose.org/en-us https://powertochoose.org/en-us 1. https://cleanskyenergy.com https://cleanskyenergy.com
    - Gordonjcp 4y ago
      It's the same in Scotland. Right now the whole country is powered by 100% renewable energy but everything is priced based on all power being generated in and for London from natural gas, because we have to prop up England's failed capitalist experiment.
      - megaman821 4y ago
        ...as opposed to the communists that delivered you wind energy?
benj111 4y ago
Yes that's why various countries are working to clean their grids.

codeulike 4y ago

A zero-emission vehicle, or ZEV, is a vehicle that does not emit exhaust gas or other pollutants from the onboard source of power. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-emissions_vehicle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-emissions_vehicle

Gordonjcp 4y ago
So a very long way from "zero emission" then, depending on where its power comes from. I guess if you stretch the definition rules sufficiently my 25-year-old 4.6 litre V8 4x4 is a "Negative-Emission Vehicle" because it actively reduces the amount of toxic pollution in the air, when you take it down some of the more polluted roads. Drive it in a bus lane and the exhaust gases are cleaner than the air it's sucking in - it's warm carbon dioxide and water vapour, with all the HC, CO and particulates stripped out.
- pwinnski 4y ago
  You can imagine a worst-case scenario for the electricity used to charge the cars, or you can imagine a best-case scenario. The car itself is zero-emission by the definition posted. You are hypothesizing that the electricity used to charge the car comes from a dirty source, but that has nothing to do with the car itself, and in Texas for example, it's easily to choose a "100% renewable" energy provider. I just checked PowerToChoose[0] and found 26 "100% Renewable" plans available from companies like CleanSky[1]. 0. https://powertochoose.org/en-us https://powertochoose.org/en-us 1. https://cleanskyenergy.com https://cleanskyenergy.com
  - Gordonjcp 4y ago
    It's the same in Scotland. Right now the whole country is powered by 100% renewable energy but everything is priced based on all power being generated in and for London from natural gas, because we have to prop up England's failed capitalist experiment.
    - megaman821 4y ago
      ...as opposed to the communists that delivered you wind energy?

benj111 4y ago

Yes that's why various countries are working to clean their grids.