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This seems like a relatively easy problem to mitigate: just put some local storage in the camera (even 1TB microSD cards cost very little). When the Wi-Fi is ou

by kccqzy 4y ago

This seems like a relatively easy problem to mitigate: just put some local storage in the camera (even 1TB microSD cards cost very little). When the Wi-Fi is out, simply record to local storage. When it's restored, upload the recorded footage. Indeed a quick search shows that newer Google Nest cameras support recording for an hour during Wi-Fi outage: https://store.google.com/magazine/compare_cameras?hl=en-US https://store.google.com/magazine/compare_cameras?hl=en-US I'm surprised that Ring doesn't have something equivalent.

Neil44 4y ago
That works for letting you see what happened after the fact, but not for alerting you to something happening right now.
- baloki 4y ago
  If your camera is down for an extended period that would probably be enough of an alert?
  - Neil44 4y ago
    If I was the attacker I'd start off by knocking the cameras out a few times to make you think they're unreliable.
    - osmarks 4y ago
      That probably requires more forward planning and effort than most criminals will bother with.
- Cthulhu_ 4y ago
  I mean the best thing you can do as an immediate reaction is call the police. Otherwise, hope nothing personal is stolen and that you can use the footage to claim insurance.
attilaberczik 4y ago
I had the same thought
rippercushions 4y ago
My $20 Wyze camera came with a microSD slot and a strong recommendation to buy a card for it.
chiph 4y ago
Then the criminals start off with a jammer and follow up with a baseball bat to the camera (or they steal the camera too). It's always been a cat & mouse game between someone with valuables to protect, and people wanting to take them.
- bradlys 4y ago
  Is this comment sarcastic because I don’t see anything that stops them from baseball batting the camera to start…? Seems more effective than wifi jamming. Well - most effective is to just steal from an area where police are known to do nothing about property theft. So, most of the US then…
  - touch_abs 4y ago
    Ideally a wired camera would record up until its destroyed, even warning the owner of motion. In that case even wearing mask still gives away height/build clothes, direction of approach, numbers etc. If its jammed first then you dont have that potential information, and you are relying on a loss of connection to be recognized as an attack.
  - chiph 4y ago
    Running a jammer as you approach the home would prevent it from uploading video to the cloud of your vehicle (perhaps the license plate can be seen), and your appearance/gait/etc. as you walk up to the house. The baseball bat is just insurance against any locally stored footage.

by kccqzy 4y ago

Neil44 4y ago

That works for letting you see what happened after the fact, but not for alerting you to something happening right now.

baloki 4y ago
If your camera is down for an extended period that would probably be enough of an alert?
- Neil44 4y ago
  If I was the attacker I'd start off by knocking the cameras out a few times to make you think they're unreliable.
  - osmarks 4y ago
    That probably requires more forward planning and effort than most criminals will bother with.
Cthulhu_ 4y ago
I mean the best thing you can do as an immediate reaction is call the police. Otherwise, hope nothing personal is stolen and that you can use the footage to claim insurance.

attilaberczik 4y ago

I had the same thought

rippercushions 4y ago

My $20 Wyze camera came with a microSD slot and a strong recommendation to buy a card for it.

chiph 4y ago

Then the criminals start off with a jammer and follow up with a baseball bat to the camera (or they steal the camera too). It's always been a cat & mouse game between someone with valuables to protect, and people wanting to take them.

bradlys 4y ago
Is this comment sarcastic because I don’t see anything that stops them from baseball batting the camera to start…? Seems more effective than wifi jamming. Well - most effective is to just steal from an area where police are known to do nothing about property theft. So, most of the US then…
- touch_abs 4y ago
  Ideally a wired camera would record up until its destroyed, even warning the owner of motion. In that case even wearing mask still gives away height/build clothes, direction of approach, numbers etc. If its jammed first then you dont have that potential information, and you are relying on a loss of connection to be recognized as an attack.
- chiph 4y ago
  Running a jammer as you approach the home would prevent it from uploading video to the cloud of your vehicle (perhaps the license plate can be seen), and your appearance/gait/etc. as you walk up to the house. The baseball bat is just insurance against any locally stored footage.