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Please offer the missing insight into how further developments in arts and farming will transform the world comparably to science, technology, engineering, and

Please offer the missing insight into how further developments in arts and farming will transform the world comparably to science, technology, engineering, and mathematics.

yunwal 4y ago
I mean, I can’t predict the future for sure, but I can point to examples in the past and throw out some hypotheticals. It’s hard to imagine a more impactful invention in today’s world than modern genetic engineering and pesticides (both in good and bad ways). It’s what allows countries like China and India to feed a billion people, it’s why we have 1 farmer feeding hundreds of people, freeing other people to work on things like tech and science, it’s also causing mass ecocide and harmful biological effects. Sure, the personal computer has changed the world, but almost 40% of the world still has no access to computers of any kind, while share of people who don’t rely on genetically engineered food or pesticides is likely under 1% at this point. Now, you might say “genetic engineering is a scientific invention”, but I don’t think you can meaningfully separate science and agriculture in that way. Scientists who invent genetic engineering techniques rely on farmers to POC and industrialize their inventions in the same way deep learning academics rely on SWEs to industrialize their discoveries. Some important ideas in agriculture that have the potential to spur revolutions: Permaculture - could allow people and communities to decrease their reliance on big corps, reduce reliance on oil for transportation in an era where oil is becoming scarcer, make space colonization feasible, eliminate food deserts. Urban farming - in a revolutionary scenario, this is less about “urban” vs “rural” and more about removing land ownership as a requirement for industrial farming. Food as leverage for political/economic movements - see Dutch farmer protests for a small example Similarly, revolutions in art can’t meaningfully be separated from science. Art and industry/science have historically worked in kind of a call and response fashion where science attempts to concretely define human understanding, and artists theorize about things that can’t yet be explained and solved by science. As an example artists perfect photorealism -> camera is invented -> modern art is created, which emphasizes aspects of the human experience that can’t be captured by photorealism -> discoveries about how the human brain works (e.g. modern psychiatry, neurology, artificial intelligence) -> postmodernism, a focus on individualism and societal structures -> ???

Please offer the missing insight into how further developments in arts and farming will transform the world comparably to science, technology, engineering, and mathematics.

yunwal 4y ago

I mean, I can’t predict the future for sure, but I can point to examples in the past and throw out some hypotheticals. It’s hard to imagine a more impactful invention in today’s world than modern genetic engineering and pesticides (both in good and bad ways). It’s what allows countries like China and India to feed a billion people, it’s why we have 1 farmer feeding hundreds of people, freeing other people to work on things like tech and science, it’s also causing mass ecocide and harmful biological effects. Sure, the personal computer has changed the world, but almost 40% of the world still has no access to computers of any kind, while share of people who don’t rely on genetically engineered food or pesticides is likely under 1% at this point. Now, you might say “genetic engineering is a scientific invention”, but I don’t think you can meaningfully separate science and agriculture in that way. Scientists who invent genetic engineering techniques rely on farmers to POC and industrialize their inventions in the same way deep learning academics rely on SWEs to industrialize their discoveries. Some important ideas in agriculture that have the potential to spur revolutions: Permaculture - could allow people and communities to decrease their reliance on big corps, reduce reliance on oil for transportation in an era where oil is becoming scarcer, make space colonization feasible, eliminate food deserts. Urban farming - in a revolutionary scenario, this is less about “urban” vs “rural” and more about removing land ownership as a requirement for industrial farming. Food as leverage for political/economic movements - see Dutch farmer protests for a small example Similarly, revolutions in art can’t meaningfully be separated from science. Art and industry/science have historically worked in kind of a call and response fashion where science attempts to concretely define human understanding, and artists theorize about things that can’t yet be explained and solved by science. As an example artists perfect photorealism -> camera is invented -> modern art is created, which emphasizes aspects of the human experience that can’t be captured by photorealism -> discoveries about how the human brain works (e.g. modern psychiatry, neurology, artificial intelligence) -> postmodernism, a focus on individualism and societal structures -> ???