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This is my general take on it. As I posted on Twitter: As one example, chess.com thinks it’s suspicious that Hans became a grandmaster at 17 instead of a young
by strenholme 4y ago
This is my general take on it. As I posted on Twitter:
As one example, chess.com thinks it’s suspicious that Hans became a grandmaster at 17 instead of a younger age (page 15 of the report), but keep in mind that the legendary Joseph Henry Blackburne didn’t learn to even how to play chess until he was 17. More recently, world champion #15 Vishy Anand did not become a grandmaster until he was 18.
Point being, it argues like a polemic, not a fact-finding report. They themselves admit this. On page 19: “Chess.com is unaware of any concrete evidence proving that Hans is cheating over the board or has ever cheated over the board”.
My personal hurdle, which has not changed in the last month, is real evidence of online cheating on or after June 20, 2021 (Hans’s 18th birthday), or real evidence of over the board cheating. Understating the extent of his online cheating in his September 6 speech is not evidence of recent cheating. I don’t like it, but it might not even be deliberate lying, but a combination of a foggy memory and nerves.
Regardless, while apparently guilty of online cheating when he was 17 or younger, and possibly guilty of understating the extent of his juvenile delinquency, I see no need to ban him from playing over the board chess with the evidence we have on the table. To ban someone as an adult for something done while a juvenile is generally considered immoral, and to ban someone without solid evidence is also considered immoral. This is a line I draw in the sand and will hold to.
- johnaspden 4y ago> This is a line I draw in the sand and will hold to. Would you play him for money at a game where you are both equally skilled and it's easy to cheat?
- jefftk 4y ago> To ban someone as an adult for something done while a juvenile is generally considered immoral I don't think it's so clear, especially when the time elapsed is short. If you cheated I'm a game we played yesterday and today is your 18th birthday I'm still not going to trust you today.