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> If it did turn out that Zatko had been talking to Musk's team, that would be a very big deal, not only undercutting a big part of Musk's current case (which h

> If it did turn out that Zatko had been talking to Musk's team, that would be a very big deal, not only undercutting a big part of Musk's current case (which he was set to lose anyways) but also falsifying several statements made both to the Delaware court and also to Congress(?!). I largely agree with this supposition, which makes it unfortunate that Musk (and co) can take a step like this to try to eliminate discovery that could point to perjury and a clear conspiracy for market-manipulation.

bandyaboot 4y ago
It’s a longshot, but it would be simply amazing if Musk managed to expose himself to criminal liability becaused he convinced himself in a pot-induced stupor that Zatko was going to somehow free him of his obligation. Don’t assume that this prevents the matter from being looked at more closely though. Musk is a juicy target.
- kwertyoowiyop 4y ago
  In other words, lawyers have only STARTED to earn money on this deal? :-)
- nocoiner 4y ago
  It would be truly amazing. All Musk had to do to minimize his exposure was to do exactly what he was doing - loudly and repeatedly proclaiming “won’t someone rid me of this troublesome merger agreement!” and seeing what crawls out of the woodwork. If he couldn’t help himself and went beyond that - well. Like you said, just simply amazing. I can’t exactly blame Musk for taking the lesson from the last several years that the American social, political and legal systems are seemingly incapable of dealing with bad-faith actors who are loose with the truth and fluid in their commitment to their, uh, commitments, but it’s nice to know that Delaware Chancery is a place where bluster and obfuscation doesn’t fly. Yet, anyway.
jcranmer 4y ago
> I largely agree with this supposition, which makes it unfortunate that Musk (and co) can take a step like this to try to eliminate discovery that could point to perjury and a clear conspiracy for market-manipulation. The court case hasn't been paused yet. There has been, to my knowledge, no documents filed with the court even requesting it be stayed (or dismissed), let alone any such requests being granted. Musk's credibility before the court is pretty thoroughly shot, so I suspect the judge isn't going to grant such a request unless Twitter agrees to it--and Twitter so far hasn't shown any inclination to agree. And why should they? They're likely to win anyways, and having a court order telling Musk to go through with the deal provides an extra guarantee that Musk will actually go through with the deal rather than changing his mind for at least a third time.

bandyaboot 4y ago

It’s a longshot, but it would be simply amazing if Musk managed to expose himself to criminal liability becaused he convinced himself in a pot-induced stupor that Zatko was going to somehow free him of his obligation. Don’t assume that this prevents the matter from being looked at more closely though. Musk is a juicy target.

kwertyoowiyop 4y ago
In other words, lawyers have only STARTED to earn money on this deal? :-)
nocoiner 4y ago
It would be truly amazing. All Musk had to do to minimize his exposure was to do exactly what he was doing - loudly and repeatedly proclaiming “won’t someone rid me of this troublesome merger agreement!” and seeing what crawls out of the woodwork. If he couldn’t help himself and went beyond that - well. Like you said, just simply amazing. I can’t exactly blame Musk for taking the lesson from the last several years that the American social, political and legal systems are seemingly incapable of dealing with bad-faith actors who are loose with the truth and fluid in their commitment to their, uh, commitments, but it’s nice to know that Delaware Chancery is a place where bluster and obfuscation doesn’t fly. Yet, anyway.

jcranmer 4y ago

> I largely agree with this supposition, which makes it unfortunate that Musk (and co) can take a step like this to try to eliminate discovery that could point to perjury and a clear conspiracy for market-manipulation. The court case hasn't been paused yet. There has been, to my knowledge, no documents filed with the court even requesting it be stayed (or dismissed), let alone any such requests being granted. Musk's credibility before the court is pretty thoroughly shot, so I suspect the judge isn't going to grant such a request unless Twitter agrees to it--and Twitter so far hasn't shown any inclination to agree. And why should they? They're likely to win anyways, and having a court order telling Musk to go through with the deal provides an extra guarantee that Musk will actually go through with the deal rather than changing his mind for at least a third time.